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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #240 on: December 12, 2019, 01:00:34 PM »
@CountValentine would you think the Catholic school should publicly denounce, and take strong action against the words and sentiment coming from an individual who seems to be a parent of a child in that school?
I wasn't asked, but I don't understand why the school should be perceived as having the same outlook as one of the parents that sends there. (Maybe if it had to do with the parents opinion on how the school should be doing something), but this is just a loony person that happens to send their kid to the school.

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #241 on: December 12, 2019, 01:03:40 PM »
I wasn't asked, but I don't understand why the school should be perceived as having the same outlook as one of the parents that sends there. (Maybe if it had to do with the parents opinion on how the school should be doing something), but this is just a loony person that happens to send their kid to the school.
The larger point is everyone should speak out. Religions should be at the forefront of these fights. Practice what you preach!!!
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #242 on: December 12, 2019, 01:06:59 PM »
Pretty informative press conference. Nothing but the facts.
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #243 on: December 12, 2019, 01:09:16 PM »
@CountValentine would you think the Catholic school should publicly denounce, and take strong action against the words and sentiment coming from an individual who seems to be a parent of a child in that school?

Where is yehuda's post about black anti-semitism?

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #244 on: December 12, 2019, 01:11:17 PM »
I wasn't asked, but I don't understand why the school should be perceived as having the same outlook as one of the parents that sends there. (Maybe if it had to do with the parents opinion on how the school should be doing something), but this is just a loony person that happens to send their kid to the school.

No one is perceiving the school as having that outlook, which is precisely why I would expect the school to come out strongly against it.

They should start with this as part of a mandatory curriculum.
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #245 on: December 12, 2019, 01:18:45 PM »
No one is perceiving the school as having that outlook, which is precisely why I would expect the school to come out strongly against it.

They should start with this as part of a mandatory curriculum.
Why would the school need to say something more than literally anyone else on the planet, unless you suspect them of harboring such views?

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #246 on: December 12, 2019, 01:25:19 PM »
Why would the school need to say something more than literally anyone else on the planet, unless you suspect them of harboring such views?

When I played that video to my DW yesterday, she asked me how come these people were able to say things like that, while being filmed, with no consequence? Why weren't they arrested? I explained to her that free speech is constitutionally protected.

However, I think any normal human being would be horrified by this. Blame the innocent victims for the fact that your child couldn't get out of school for a few hours, and continue with hateful rhetoric. I think most schools realize that education is partnership between the school and the parents. Can the school tolerate such a partner? Could the school allow such sentiment to be expressed and harbored within the community of the school?
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #247 on: December 12, 2019, 02:17:54 PM »
When I played that video to my DW yesterday, she asked me how come these people were able to say things like that, while being filmed, with no consequence? Why weren't they arrested? I explained to her that free speech is constitutionally protected.

However, I think any normal human being would be horrified by this. Blame the innocent victims for the fact that your child couldn't get out of school for a few hours, and continue with hateful rhetoric. I think most schools realize that education is partnership between the school and the parents. Can the school tolerate such a partner? Could the school allow such sentiment to be expressed and harbored within the community of the school?
So they should kick her kids out?

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #248 on: December 12, 2019, 02:59:51 PM »
So they should kick her kids out?

Not at all what I said. I am not telling them what to do, it is up to them, but I would think that they should PUBLICLY denounce such talk, and implement some kind of program in their school to eradicate such thinking. Which is why I suggested to start with the Daryl Davis TED talk, though it would probably need to be heavily expanded upon, so that people understand that his point isn't only about hatred towards black people.
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #249 on: December 12, 2019, 05:47:46 PM »
I believe that tweet is faked. The only place on twitter where the screenshot appears has a header that says "Michele replied" but is cropped out here. Given how easy it is to manufacture twitter screenshots (just hit F12 and change the text to anything you want) and the fact that there aren't any other instances of replies, it's not likely that its real.
Absolutely not. I saw it live

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #250 on: December 12, 2019, 05:49:13 PM »
@CountValentine would you think the Catholic school should publicly denounce, and take strong action against the words and sentiment coming from an individual who seems to be a parent of a child in that school?
That's absurd

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #251 on: December 12, 2019, 05:50:38 PM »
Absolutely not. I saw it live
Insane that there's no outcry. Can you even imagine if an R tweeted something about black or Latino people killing people if the killer wasn't black or Latino?
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #252 on: December 12, 2019, 05:51:00 PM »
That's absurd
...but is it a racist question?  :)
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #253 on: December 12, 2019, 05:51:51 PM »
Absolutely not. I saw it live
You follow her account?
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« Reply #254 on: December 12, 2019, 05:52:00 PM »
Where is yehuda's post about black anti-semitism?
This?
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« Reply #256 on: December 12, 2019, 05:53:00 PM »

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« Reply #257 on: December 12, 2019, 05:53:32 PM »
No. I saw it retweeted.
I saw a screenshot tweeted so I went to her account to verify, and thereby took my own screenshot.

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
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