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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #120 on: December 25, 2016, 11:45:07 PM »
That is not the same thing as a U.N.resolution.
Would you agree that BO believes building more settlements makes it harder to achieve peace?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #121 on: December 25, 2016, 11:47:13 PM »
It might not but do you see any way it could help? What if it was Trump that did this and Bibi attacked him. What do you think the response would be?
Obama has been pretty ruthless against those who go up against him while we have not yet seen Trump do more than tweet. We have yet to see his bite being anywhere comparable to his bark.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #122 on: December 25, 2016, 11:47:56 PM »
Would you agree that BO believes building more settlements makes it harder to achieve peace?

yes, BHO believes that, just like he believes that handing over the West Bank will bring peaceful responses from the Palestinians.

History has shown us otherwise -- the handover of the land of Gaza resulted in destruction of the greenhouses there and years of kidnappings, tunnel assaults, and constant rockets and stabbings. Ending settlements will have identical results.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #123 on: December 25, 2016, 11:48:32 PM »
Would you agree that BO believes building more settlements makes it harder to achieve peace?
Yes. I think that has been the belief of most presidents.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #124 on: December 25, 2016, 11:50:03 PM »
Would you agree that BO believes building more settlements makes it harder to achieve peace?
Isn't Bo the presidential dog?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #125 on: December 25, 2016, 11:52:41 PM »
No. It is no secret from day one BO was against any more settlements and for a two state solution.
This resolution is so much more than that. Every US president has been against settlements and for two states.

See here for a start:

https://twitter.com/cerenomri/status/813205928849739776

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #126 on: December 25, 2016, 11:58:35 PM »
My theory is that Obama is afraid about trump working out a piece deal between Israel and the Palestinians, and he does not wanna be the biggest fool that in his 8 years he did absolutely nothing. So he does whatever he can that delays piece. He surly knows that this resolution is a "no" to piece. And that's what he wants.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #127 on: December 26, 2016, 12:07:31 AM »
Can someone start a wiki for all the different reasons BO did this? My head is spinning.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #128 on: December 26, 2016, 12:07:37 AM »
Funny you should use the word "savior". The way some here worship him I was thinking of another word.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #129 on: December 26, 2016, 12:10:14 AM »

Trump = Jesus
Obama = Messiah
Isn't this backwards?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #130 on: December 26, 2016, 12:15:36 AM »
Can someone start a wiki for all the different reasons BO did this? My head is spinning.
Use mine.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #131 on: December 26, 2016, 12:18:09 AM »
Use mine.
The only thing that made sense in your post was calling the peace process a piece process.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #132 on: December 26, 2016, 12:19:37 AM »
Can someone start a wiki for all the different reasons BO did this? My head is spinning.
Because he loves Muslims more than Jews. Plain and simple.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #133 on: December 26, 2016, 12:20:53 AM »
Because he loves Muslims more than Jews. Plain and simple.
Is that why you say he is "Muslim born"?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #134 on: December 26, 2016, 12:22:00 AM »
Because he loves Muslims more than Jews. Plain and simple.
Then why wait till now ?
He could've done it the day after winning his second term.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #135 on: December 26, 2016, 12:27:24 AM »
Is that why you say he is "Muslim born"?
Correct. As i wrote upthread, his father was Muslim. According to Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, you are a Muslim.
I also wrote above that i fully understand why he did what he did, because as a Muslim, of course he should rather be a friend of Muslims rather than Jews.
My only issue was, that why pretend to be a friend of Israel and Jews for nearly 8 years, and then stick it to them. You need to be honest.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #136 on: December 26, 2016, 12:33:06 AM »
Correct. As i wrote upthread, his father was Muslim. According to Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, you are a Muslim.
I also wrote above that i fully understand why he did what he did, because as a Muslim, of course he should rather be a friend of Muslims rather than Jews.
My only issue was, that why pretend to be a friend of Israel and Jews for nearly 8 years, and then stick it to them. You need to be honest.
I thought you follow Jewish law? I must ask are you a US citizen? If so how about following our laws?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #137 on: December 26, 2016, 12:35:30 AM »
I thought you follow Jewish law? I must ask are you a US citizen? If so how about following our laws?
I think you are having trouble staying on conversation. You asked why I called him Muslim Born. I responded to you that he was indeed born Muslim.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #138 on: December 26, 2016, 12:36:06 AM »
He could've done it the day after winning his second term.
Didn't want to ruin Hillary's chances at getting into the white house.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #139 on: December 26, 2016, 12:41:09 AM »
I think you are having trouble staying on conversation. You asked why I called him Muslim Born. I responded to you that he was indeed born Muslim.
...but it makes no sense. You are using laws as a basis that you don't believe in. Lets try a simple one. Was BO born an American?
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