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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #195 on: December 26, 2016, 10:25:17 AM »
And yet, liberals (BO included) have vetoed this resolution for decades. And this time the US pushed for it to be brought back so they could make a public show out of letting it pass.

Key words right there.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #197 on: December 26, 2016, 10:25:56 AM »
Why are you assuming Muslim law works the same way and gives you a choice of if you wish to have been born Muslim or not? Unless you're more familiar with those laws than anyone else here. Jewish law says if your mother is Jewish, you are Jewish for life, and you cannot denounce it. You can choose to not follow any Jewish Law your entire life if you so please but that doesn't make you non-Jewish by birth. Muslim Law may be like Jewish Law or American Law. Unless you can provide information to door #3.
When you say Jewish/Muslim law are you meaning religious law or am I missing something?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #198 on: December 26, 2016, 10:26:15 AM »
Remember this article? It was always the plan.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/tension-between-u-s-israel-likely-to-continue-after-netanyahus-re-election-1426690031
I think it's been the plan since Bibi spoke to congress about the Iran deal.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #199 on: December 26, 2016, 10:26:38 AM »
Because it's old news by then and won't get coverage.
This lets pro-Israel Americans know how people like BO really feel about Israel...

But then he's giving BO more fuel to pass what he can get through in the next 25 days....

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #200 on: December 26, 2016, 10:26:55 AM »
When you say Jewish/Muslim law are you meaning religious law or am I missing something?
religious law

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #201 on: December 26, 2016, 10:28:15 AM »
But then he's giving BO more fuel to pass what he can get through in the next 25 days....
He's a lame duck. He can't pass any kind of meaningful law at this point.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #202 on: December 26, 2016, 10:29:56 AM »
He's a lame duck. He can't pass any kind of meaningful law at this point.

Not in the US but UN resolutions.

Not that those mean anything anyway but he can take what he did Friday and multiply it. Everyone is up in arms about that so imagine what their reaction could be if they passed a resolution recognizing a Palestinian state. Or who knows.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #203 on: December 26, 2016, 10:30:30 AM »
religious law
Like I said you can't force your religion on anyone. Religion is a belief. That is something you choose.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #204 on: December 26, 2016, 10:32:02 AM »
Not that those mean anything anyway but he can take what he did Friday and multiply it. Everyone is up in arms about that so imagine what their reaction could be if they passed a resolution recognizing a Palestinian state. Or who knows.
At least someone gets it.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #206 on: December 26, 2016, 10:36:10 AM »
Not in the US but UN resolutions.

Not that those mean anything anyway but he can take what he did Friday and multiply it. Everyone is up in arms about that so imagine what their reaction could be if they passed a resolution recognizing a Palestinian state. Or who knows.
Agree. I have a feeling he is trying to ratchet up the pressure already from this hoping to prevent anything more.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #207 on: December 26, 2016, 10:41:26 AM »
Like I said you can't force your religion on anyone. Religion is a belief. That is something you choose.

Whether you like it or not, there are sets of laws that govern each religion. Whether the person chooses to believe or follow or worship or break those laws is irrelevant. They exist with or without his/her belief. Anyone can believe anything they want but Islamic Law dictates whether you are born Muslim. Whether he or you choose to believe he is or not later on in life, irrelevant. Let him choose not to be Muslim, for all it's worth, or you can choose for him, but under Islamic Law, he may be Muslim. So he can preach I am not a Muslim, and he scream it from a Church or Synagogue, but the reality is, we have to check Islamic Law and whether it dictates whether he was born Muslim and whether he could denounce it later. Let him convert to whatever he wants and not practice anything or everything. Irrelevant to whether he was born Muslim.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #208 on: December 26, 2016, 10:47:45 AM »
Whether you like it or not, there are sets of laws that govern each religion. Whether the person chooses to believe or follow or worship or break those laws is irrelevant.
You say this because you believe in your religion. This is what your religion teaches you. It is meaningless to anyone who does not follow your religion. We went off the deep end with this one so you can have the last say as I am done.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #209 on: December 26, 2016, 10:58:27 AM »
You say this because you believe in your religion. This is what your religion teaches you. It is meaningless to anyone who does not follow your religion. We went off the deep end with this one so you can have the last say as I am done.

Religion aside, why is it so ludicrous to believe that "Law governs the people, whether you like it or not?" Is that a religious belief? I wasn't aware that putting the Law above yourself is a religious idea. To each their own, though I hope for society's sake, you, along with everyone else, put (insert country here) Law on top, whether you choose to believe it or not.