Israel's good friend Obama...

[JTZ]

No people who claim to be friends of Israel and are actually foes, I know of 2.

Just two? You need to get out more.

[efflpetzel]

I'm with JTZ here, there's no need for name calling & racist nonsense.

As a good friend of ours said

'The effect of a UN resolution can be as severe as a trending hashtag'

[mmgfarb]

there's no need for name calling & racist nonsense

When the day comes that those are eradicated on DDF please let me know.

[Proisrael]

Just two? You need to get out more.

Can you just come out to calm everyone down....Your Neturei Karta and support resolutions against the Jewish people living in Israel. Nothing more needs to be said.

[David Smith]

Can you just come out to calm everyone down....Your Neturei Karta and support resolutions against the Jewish people living in Israel. Nothing more needs to be said.

[oiseli48]

Name calling diverts attention from the issue at hand.

If you don't support the settlements, then you surely aren't a hypocrite, and don't support the US annexation of Texas and California from Mexico. Or the entire US for that matter, founded on innocent Native American blood.

Israel won the West Bank in a defensive war against JORDAN, which relinquished their claim to the land in 1995. Anyone who thinks it belongs to anyone besides Israel, is ignorant or an anti-Semite.

(I would say IMHO, but not when people's lives are at stake)

[Aaaron]

But they unfortunately wield power & their decisions can have consequences.

Such as?

[bubbles]

Now Israel can basically just ignore everyone completely and build settlements wherever they want since everything is illegal anyway.

[bubbles]

Lets be clear here. We must demonize anyone who does not follow 100% lock step with what's best for Israel.

Just curious. Are you read up on the issues? What is the reasoning in your opinion for the the western wall to be an illegal settlement?

[Aaaron]

Just curious. Are you read up on the issues? What is the reasoning in your opinion for the the western wall to be an illegal settlement?

I like to think I'm pretty read up. Who says the Western Wall is an illegal settlement??  Maybe start reading actual releases and resolutions rather than misleading headlines solely from publications that conform to your worldview.

[YitzyS]

Isn't this strange: Senators Cruz and Graham are calling on the US to stop funding to the UN. I find it weird - the US had veto power and they chose not to use it. So why would the US agree to stop funding the UN - for doing something the US technocally agreed to?! I personally think that the UN should be labeled a terror organization, but from the eyes of the US decisionmakers who didn't veto the bill, the arguement should to make no sense. Am I missing something?

[Aaaron]

Isn't this strange: Senators Cruz and Graham are calling on the US to stop funding to the UN. I find it weird - the US had veto power and they chose not to use it. So why would the US agree to stop funding the UN - for doing something the US technocally agreed to?! I personally think that the UN should be labeled a terror organization, but from the eyes of the US decisionmakers who didn't veto the bill, the arguement should to make no sense. Am I missing something?

International diplomacy generally only requires one decision maker: POTUS. Our budget and who we fund is determined by Congress.

[CS1]

I like to think I'm pretty read up. Who says the Western Wall is an illegal settlement??  Maybe start reading actual releases and resolutions rather than misleading headlines solely from publications that conform to your worldview.

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Definitely time for more reading. It's a direct quote from Netanyahu that they UN is accusing the Western Wall of existing in 'occupied territory': Quote:
Israeli reaction: 'Gang-up at the UN'
Mr Netanyahu said: "Israel rejects this shameful anti-Israel resolution at the UN and will not abide by its terms.
"At a time when the Security Council does nothing to stop the slaughter of half-a-million people in Syria, it disgracefully gangs up on the one true democracy in the Middle East, Israel, and calls the Western Wall 'occupied territory'."
Source Link: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38425512

[bubbles]

1. Question wasn't directed at you. I was asking JTZ if his comments were based on knowledge

2. Is the western wall located in occupied Palestinian territory according to the resolution?

3. Replace western wall with other parts of eastern Jerusalem

I like to think I'm pretty read up. Who says the Western Wall is an illegal settlement??  Maybe start reading actual releases and resolutions rather than misleading headlines solely from publications that conform to your worldview.

[Aaaron]

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Definitely time for more reading. It's a direct quote from Netanyahu that they UN is accusing the Western Wall of existing in 'occupied territory': Quote:
Israeli reaction: 'Gang-up at the UN'
Mr Netanyahu said: "Israel rejects this shameful anti-Israel resolution at the UN and will not abide by its terms.
"At a time when the Security Council does nothing to stop the slaughter of half-a-million people in Syria, it disgracefully gangs up on the one true democracy in the Middle East, Israel, and calls the Western Wall 'occupied territory'."
Source Link: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38425512

Reading comprehension fail. That's not what bubbles said. And amyway, find me the language in the resolution, not in Bibi's response.

[YitzyS]

Thanks Aaaron for the clarification regarding the funding.

[CS1]

Reading comprehension fail. That's not what bubbles said. And anyway, find me the language in the resolution, not in Bibi's response.

here is resolution 2334 language: https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm

 Yes, the Western wall is in East Jerusalem, that's the point of "Yom Yerushalyim"! That we regained it in 1967. The Arabs want all pre-'67 borders, which includes the Kotel.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Day

[Aaaron]

here is resolution 2334 language: https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm

 Yes, the Western wall is in East Jerusalem, that's the point of "Yom Yerushalyim"! That we regained it in 1967. The Arabs want all pre-'67 borders, which includes the Kotel.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Day

I know all of that. Nowhere does it call the Kosel an "illegal settlement.". Using false, attention-grabbing terminology doesn't help any arguments.

[aygart]

I know all of that. Nowhere does it call the Kosel an "illegal settlement.". Using false, attention-grabbing terminology doesn't help any arguments.

That is semantics. The only reason it wouldn't be an illegal settlement is because it is not a settlement since no one lives there. The Jewish Quarter would be an illegal settlement. The point is the same.

[Aaaron]

That is semantics. The only reason it wouldn't be an illegal settlement is because it is not a settlement since no one lives there. The Jewish Quarter would be an illegal settlement. The point is the same.

A:  Semantics matter here.  Hyperbolic terminology just demonstrates an inherent bias.
B:  The Jewish Quarter would not be an illegal settlement, since it's not a settlement.

And no one has answered my question, what harmful effects with this resolution cause?