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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #120 on: December 25, 2016, 11:45:07 PM »
Quote from: aygart on December 25, 2016, 11:42:51 PM
That is not the same thing as a U.N.resolution.
Would you agree that BO believes building more settlements makes it harder to achieve peace?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #121 on: December 25, 2016, 11:47:13 PM »
Quote from: JTZ on December 25, 2016, 11:22:39 PM
It might not but do you see any way it could help? What if it was Trump that did this and Bibi attacked him. What do you think the response would be?
Obama has been pretty ruthless against those who go up against him while we have not yet seen Trump do more than tweet. We have yet to see his bite being anywhere comparable to his bark.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #122 on: December 25, 2016, 11:47:56 PM »
Quote from: JTZ on December 25, 2016, 11:45:07 PM
Would you agree that BO believes building more settlements makes it harder to achieve peace?

yes, BHO believes that, just like he believes that handing over the West Bank will bring peaceful responses from the Palestinians.

History has shown us otherwise -- the handover of the land of Gaza resulted in destruction of the greenhouses there and years of kidnappings, tunnel assaults, and constant rockets and stabbings. Ending settlements will have identical results.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #123 on: December 25, 2016, 11:48:32 PM »
Quote from: JTZ on December 25, 2016, 11:45:07 PM
Would you agree that BO believes building more settlements makes it harder to achieve peace?
Yes. I think that has been the belief of most presidents.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #124 on: December 25, 2016, 11:50:03 PM »
Quote from: JTZ on December 25, 2016, 11:45:07 PM
Would you agree that BO believes building more settlements makes it harder to achieve peace?
Isn't Bo the presidential dog?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #125 on: December 25, 2016, 11:52:41 PM »
Quote from: JTZ on December 25, 2016, 11:30:10 PM
No. It is no secret from day one BO was against any more settlements and for a two state solution.
This resolution is so much more than that. Every US president has been against settlements and for two states.

See here for a start:

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #126 on: December 25, 2016, 11:58:35 PM »
My theory is that Obama is afraid about trump working out a piece deal between Israel and the Palestinians, and he does not wanna be the biggest fool that in his 8 years he did absolutely nothing. So he does whatever he can that delays piece. He surly knows that this resolution is a "no" to piece. And that's what he wants.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #127 on: December 26, 2016, 12:07:31 AM »
Can someone start a wiki for all the different reasons BO did this? My head is spinning.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #128 on: December 26, 2016, 12:07:37 AM »
Quote from: JTZ on December 25, 2016, 10:53:26 PM
Funny you should use the word "savior". The way some here worship him I was thinking of another word.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #129 on: December 26, 2016, 12:10:14 AM »
Quote from: aygart on December 26, 2016, 12:07:37 AM

Trump = Jesus
Obama = Messiah
Isn't this backwards?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #130 on: December 26, 2016, 12:15:36 AM »
Quote from: JTZ on December 26, 2016, 12:07:31 AM
Can someone start a wiki for all the different reasons BO did this? My head is spinning.
Use mine.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #131 on: December 26, 2016, 12:18:09 AM »
Quote from: ilherman on December 26, 2016, 12:15:36 AM
Use mine.
The only thing that made sense in your post was calling the peace process a piece process.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #132 on: December 26, 2016, 12:19:37 AM »
Quote from: JTZ on December 26, 2016, 12:07:31 AM
Can someone start a wiki for all the different reasons BO did this? My head is spinning.
Because he loves Muslims more than Jews. Plain and simple.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #133 on: December 26, 2016, 12:20:53 AM »
Quote from: Deal Guy on December 26, 2016, 12:19:37 AM
Because he loves Muslims more than Jews. Plain and simple.
Is that why you say he is "Muslim born"?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #134 on: December 26, 2016, 12:22:00 AM »
Quote from: Deal Guy on December 26, 2016, 12:19:37 AM
Because he loves Muslims more than Jews. Plain and simple.
Quote from: TimT on December 25, 2016, 11:30:45 PM
Then why wait till now ?
He could've done it the day after winning his second term.
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