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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #165 on: December 26, 2016, 05:10:00 AM »
Wake up call. Obama talks to more Jews than to Muslims. He doesn't hate Israel. He isn't a Muslim. He's just a Liberal which means that he believes (and has probably confirmed by talking to Liberal Jews) that you can be for pre-1967 borders and still be a "friend" of Israel. He doesn't think he stabbed Israel in the back. Sure, he knows Netenyahu doesn't like what he did but he considers Netenyahu the Israeli equivalent of a Republican, in other words, he has little regard for his opinion.

In short, you are reading way too much into it. He doesn't think like you think and his actions don't mean what you think they mean.
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Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #166 on: December 26, 2016, 06:23:20 AM »
Obama's just a Liberal which means that he believes (and has probably confirmed by talking to Liberal Jews) that you can be for pre-1967 borders and still be a "friend" of Israel.

Somehow I feel that growing up listening to Jeremiah Wright's anti Israel rants actually made him a bit worse off than your average liberal Jew
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #167 on: December 26, 2016, 07:50:53 AM »
no thanks. I totally disagree with you on everything and I think you completely missed my point. I almost want to delete my post now that I see it being quoted by you.
Your welcome!  :P
You made the statement not me and your point was perfectly clear.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #168 on: December 26, 2016, 08:00:40 AM »
PSA: Be careful saying BO is not a Muslim. You will be labeled a self-hating Jew or anti-Semitic.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #169 on: December 26, 2016, 08:20:52 AM »
The subject at hand is that most here believe BO is not a friend of Israel. I have no problem with that position. What I do have is a problem with your and others racist comments.
Without reading the responses, 1000 times this.
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Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #170 on: December 26, 2016, 08:25:23 AM »
Of course it is true. It was reported by FOX and they have never been wrong. Oh wait ...  :)

It's on CNN now too.

Netanyahu spokesman David Keyes told CNN's Dana Bash on Sunday, "We have iron-clad information, frankly, that the Obama administration really helped push this resolution and helped craft it, from sources internationally and sources in the Arab world."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/25/politics/israel-un-settlements-netanyahu-ambassadors/index.html

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #171 on: December 26, 2016, 08:27:45 AM »
This made anyone who ever dismissed Obama being called anti Israel - myself included, to an extent - look mighty stupid.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #172 on: December 26, 2016, 08:28:46 AM »
It's on CNN now too.

Netanyahu spokesman David Keyes told CNN's Dana Bash on Sunday, "We have iron-clad information, frankly, that the Obama administration really helped push this resolution and helped craft it, from sources internationally and sources in the Arab world."
Yes David Keyes is making that claim. I will hold off judgement until I see the iron-clad information.  ;)
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #173 on: December 26, 2016, 08:52:01 AM »
The irony here is that Obama (on some level) did this because he doesn't like Bibi (or to be more charitable, believes Bibi is not interested in peace) yet while this move hurts Israel it strengths Bibi and the right (politically).

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #175 on: December 26, 2016, 09:23:20 AM »
Yes David Keyes is making that claim. I will hold off judgement until I see the iron-clad information.  ;)
Now you sound like Putins spokesman dismissing the hack...

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #176 on: December 26, 2016, 09:29:38 AM »
Now you sound like Putins spokesman dismissing the hack...
Obamas rep denies the claim. Who is telling the truth, flip a coin.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #177 on: December 26, 2016, 09:48:56 AM »
Wake up call. Obama talks to more Jews than to Muslims. He doesn't hate Israel. He isn't a Muslim. He's just a Liberal which means that he believes (and has probably confirmed by talking to Liberal Jews) that you can be for pre-1967 borders and still be a "friend" of Israel. He doesn't think he stabbed Israel in the back. Sure, he knows Netenyahu doesn't like what he did but he considers Netenyahu the Israeli equivalent of a Republican, in other words, he has little regard for his opinion.

In short, you are reading way too much into it. He doesn't think like you think and his actions don't mean what you think they mean.
Bear in mind tht a resolution almost exactly like this one WAS vetoed by the US a few years ago.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #178 on: December 26, 2016, 09:50:46 AM »
Yes David Keyes is making that claim. I will hold off judgement until I see the iron-clad information.  ;)
One thing visible to everyone is how Egypt took the resolution off the table until AFTERWARDS the US got word out that it would not veto it and then it came back to life.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #179 on: December 26, 2016, 09:52:55 AM »
The irony here is that Obama (on some level) did this because he doesn't like Bibi (or to be more charitable, believes Bibi is not interested in peace) yet while this move hurts Israel it strengths Bibi and the right (politically).
But Trump is the vindictive one since he may write a tweet against someone who insulted him ::) .
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