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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #400 on: December 28, 2016, 01:02:13 PM »
Israeli PM to deliver speech soon on the Kerry ME speech. I did not listen to the speech was it against Israel? Or not so bad?
It was a standard "Kerry" release.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #401 on: December 28, 2016, 01:03:01 PM »
WAT?

They put TOO MUCH filling in the donuts.
Only from the jelly.....
We need a two bakery solution.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #402 on: December 28, 2016, 01:05:26 PM »
Maybe Bibi was not so stupid to attack Obama...

See the update to this article.
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/28/hoyer-to-kerry-shut-up/
Bibi believes that coming out so strong against Obama will create pressure on Obama not to continue down this path, from both sides of the isle. ( If he's correct is something else..)

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #403 on: December 28, 2016, 01:17:18 PM »
Is was a standard "Kerry" release.
Oiy
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #404 on: December 28, 2016, 01:17:48 PM »
Israeli PM to deliver speech soon on the Kerry ME speech. I did not listen to the speech was it against Israel? Or not so bad?

There were some truths in it. He did acknowledge Netanyahu is the Prime Minister, Shimon Peres has passed away, and that his speech will not bring peace.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #405 on: December 28, 2016, 01:30:09 PM »
WAT?

They put TOO MUCH filling in the donuts.
Real ultimate popcorn about to pop up in here, boy!

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #406 on: December 28, 2016, 01:30:18 PM »
The trending quote is "Israel can either be Jewish or Democratic, it cannot be both"

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #407 on: December 28, 2016, 01:30:51 PM »
The trending quote is "Israel can either be Jewish or Democratic, it cannot be both"
I literally have no idea what he meant by that.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #408 on: December 28, 2016, 01:31:10 PM »
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"John Kerry must’ve forgotten that Arafat rejected every single offer from Ehud Barak, Ehud Olmert and Ariel Sharon. Those offers were basically giving them everything they ever wanted and he still rejected. John Kerry also probably did not hear the radio interview between a Hamas leader and a US talk show. The Hamas animal was asked if they would cease attacking Israelis if they reverted 100% to pre 1967 borders. His answer was- we need to wait and see. So the host pushed him to give a more concrete answer. After all the fumbling his answer was a resounding NO! There you have it Mr. Kerry, it’s the Palestinians who need to choose between remaining in misery or joining the rest of the civilized world."
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #409 on: December 28, 2016, 01:33:11 PM »
The trending quote is "Israel can either be Jewish or Democratic, it cannot be both"
WTH. I can't believe he said that. Actually I could.
Now, if he said that regarding that arab nations, then I wouldn't believe it.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #410 on: December 28, 2016, 01:33:44 PM »
The trending quote is "Israel can either be Jewish or Democratic, it cannot be both"

That's actually a pretty deep concept.
Democracy is from the Greeks. I thought we won that battle.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #411 on: December 28, 2016, 01:34:58 PM »
That's actually a pretty deep concept.
Democracy is from the Greeks. I thought we won that battle.
New headlines "Kerry uses Chabad Meorah Lighting Speech to blast Israel."
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #412 on: December 28, 2016, 01:42:39 PM »
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"John Kerry must’ve forgotten that Arafat rejected every single offer from Ehud Barak, Ehud Olmert and Ariel Sharon. Those offers were basically giving them everything they ever wanted and he still rejected. John Kerry also probably did not hear the radio interview between a Hamas leader and a US talk show. The Hamas animal was asked if they would cease attacking Israelis if they reverted 100% to pre 1967 borders. His answer was- we need to wait and see. So the host pushed him to give a more concrete answer. After all the fumbling his answer was a resounding NO! There you have it Mr. Kerry, it’s the Palestinians who need to choose between remaining in misery or joining the rest of the civilized world."

Palestinians have already rejected the framework for peace in speech.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #413 on: December 28, 2016, 02:01:53 PM »
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Kerry says “fully ending the occupation” is the main issue for the Palestinians.

He says there are ways to secure both states with Jordanian and Egyptian assistance.

What is he smoking?  Has he forgotten Egypt's democratically elected Moslem Brotherhood govt? 

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #415 on: December 28, 2016, 02:20:34 PM »
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #416 on: December 28, 2016, 02:21:38 PM »
The trending quote is "Israel can either be Jewish or Democratic, it cannot be both"
So I actually heard the explanation of this line and it actually makes sense now.

He's saying if there is one state and all Palestinians are granted citizenship they would become the majority of voters and Israel will no longer be a Jewish state. The numbers do seem to add up by 2020 they will outnumber the Jews...
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #417 on: December 28, 2016, 02:25:57 PM »
So I actually heard the explanation of this line and it actually makes sense now.

He's saying if there is one state and all Palestinians are granted citizenship they would become the majority of voters and Israel will no longer be a Jewish state. The numbers do seem to add up by 2020 they will outnumber the Jews...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/11968/10-lies-secretary-state-kerry-told-during-his-big-ben-shapiro

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2. “If The Choice Is One State, Israel Can Either Be Jewish Or Democratic. It Cannot Be Both.” This is patently absurd. There has been one state in the area between the Jordan and the Mediterranean for some 50 years. That state has been democratic. This lie rests on two absurd contentions: first, that if Israel were to annex all Judea and Samaria, Jews would be outnumbered by Arabs; second, that if Israel were to annex all lands, Israel would have to grant all Palestinian Arabs full citizenship or face status as an apartheid state. The first claim is simply false – Jews outnumber Palestinian Arabs outside of the Gaza Strip by a factor of two-to-one, and Jews now have the equivalent birth rate of Palestinian Arabs, and will soon have a higher birth rate, as Caroline Glick points out, meaning that Jewish majority status will increase, not decrease. Second, the United States does not offer citizenship to all the people living within its borders, or over territories over which it has sovereignty. Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic are governed semi-autonomously, but citizens of Puerto Rico cannot vote in presidential elections in the United States. Israel could easily grant green cards to Palestinian residents while also giving them local control of their governance without a national vote.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #418 on: December 28, 2016, 02:27:15 PM »
So I actually heard the explanation of this line and it actually makes sense now.

He's saying if there is one state and all Palestinians are granted citizenship they would become the majority of voters and Israel will no longer be a Jewish state. The numbers do seem to add up by 2020 they will outnumber the Jews...

that's incredible bs on the numbers

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #419 on: December 28, 2016, 02:36:15 PM »
that's incredible bs on the numbers
Why? I ran some numbers and it seemed right to me, as well as some articles on the subject.
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