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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #460 on: December 28, 2016, 05:54:51 PM »
Try starting at the sites themselves. See if Israel is the only violator listed. I am not going to waste my time. Now if someone wants to put their money were their mouth is I will be more than happy to waste some time. Lets see how many takers I get.
They link to the reports
In general I have found UN Watch to be accurate though alarmist. Spending some time there may help you understand some the attitudes here towards the U.N.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #461 on: December 28, 2016, 06:01:11 PM »
Great response by Bibi!

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #462 on: December 28, 2016, 06:06:07 PM »
They link to the reports
Help me out here. I trying to find one report that says Israel is the "ONLY" violator as the video states over and over. We know they are anti-Israel but it doesn't strengthen the case to make things up.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #463 on: December 28, 2016, 06:08:19 PM »
Help me out here. I trying to find one report that says Israel is the "ONLY" violator as the video states over and over. We know they are anti-Israel but it doesn't strengthen the case to make things up.
It doesn't say in those words but Israel is the only country they singled out as a violator.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #464 on: December 28, 2016, 06:12:47 PM »
It doesn't say in those words but Israel is the only country they singled out as a violator.
...because it is not true. The video is pulling a Trump. The facts make them look bad enough. No need to make them HUGH!
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #465 on: December 28, 2016, 06:25:25 PM »
...because it is not true. The video is pulling a Trump. The facts make them look bad enough. No need to make them HUGH!
I can't say I laid that much attention to the video. Who is it anyhow?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #466 on: December 28, 2016, 06:27:43 PM »
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #467 on: December 28, 2016, 06:36:58 PM »
I do not recall hearing it anywhere.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #469 on: December 28, 2016, 06:53:40 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/SenatorMarcoRubio/posts/1497922303566462

Nice! Obama is helping to unify the Rs, Cruz and Rubio looking fwd to working with Trump.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #470 on: December 28, 2016, 07:38:17 PM »
Link to Kerry speech?

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #471 on: December 28, 2016, 07:50:59 PM »
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #472 on: December 28, 2016, 10:35:35 PM »
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Thanks.

He's basically saying that these equal number of Arabs living between the Jordan and the Mediterranean, are entitled to a state. Either their own, or to be part of a democracy joined with Israel.

Question is, why are they entitled to anything at all?

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #473 on: December 29, 2016, 12:37:39 AM »
Big difference between Kerry's anti-Israel speech (yes you are reading that correctly) and Power's speech to the UN. You think Bibi's constant attacks had anything to do with it?
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #474 on: December 29, 2016, 01:05:35 AM »
Big difference between Kerry's anti-Israel speech (yes you are reading that correctly) and Power's speech to the UN. You think Bibi's constant attacks had anything to do with it?
No. Power is not an anti-semite. Kerry is.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #475 on: December 29, 2016, 01:09:39 AM »
https://www.facebook.com/SenatorMarcoRubio/posts/1497922303566462
Good morning Rubio. Its nice to finally hear from him after a whole week. Its surprising that the only 2 GOP senators who have been talking for the past week have been Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz. But better late than never. Thanks for the support.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #476 on: December 29, 2016, 01:13:36 AM »
Good morning Rubio. Its nice to finally hear from him after a whole week. Its surprising that the only 2 GOP senators who have been talking for the past week have been Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz. But better late than never. Thanks for the support.
Don't confuse support with pandering.
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #477 on: December 29, 2016, 01:16:34 AM »
Don't confuse support with pandering.
It's not like he has a lot of Jews in his state.

But in any case, Rubio has made some fantastically incisive speeches about Israel from the Senate floor
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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #478 on: December 29, 2016, 01:21:21 AM »
It's not like he has a lot of Jews in his state.

But in any case, Rubio has made some fantastically incisive speeches about Israel from the Senate floor
That is true. He was also very pro Israel during the Presidential campaign. That is why I found it surprising that it took him till now to speak up, especially being from Florida. Perhaps he has mellowed a bit since losing to Trump.

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Re: Israel's good friend Obama...
« Reply #479 on: December 29, 2016, 01:24:21 AM »
The term "anti" is used a lot in this thread so let me try one. If you consistently side with a foreign governments position over the US is that being anti-American? Should I wait until Friday for this question?  :)
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