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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2021, 11:40:59 AM »
I try to only fund with stock, even when I'm not ready to sell, I repurchase and raise my basis.

AKA legal double dipping. You get a deduction on appreciation you didn't realize.
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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2021, 11:41:57 AM »
AKA legal double dipping. You get a deduction on appreciation you didn't realize.
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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2021, 12:15:21 PM »
I try to only fund with stock, even when I'm not ready to sell, I repurchase and raise my basis.

This is a great strategy, just make sure it is stock held for over 1 year for it to qualify

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2021, 12:18:33 PM »
From their website
Anyone here donate stock through TDF? Any fees for that?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2021, 12:22:09 PM »
Anyone here donate stock through TDF? Any fees for that?

I purposely have my DAF at the same brokerage as my investment account (Schwab) transferring stock takes about 1 minute and it clears by the next day

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2021, 12:24:12 PM »
I purposely have my DAF at the same brokerage as my investment account (Schwab) transferring stock takes about 1 minute and it clears by the next day
Fees?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2021, 12:29:27 PM »
Fees?

I believe it is 0.6% on assets held, which is pretty standard / low end for DAFs. Which I don't really mind as the assets in the account are still being invested (low risk) and are making a return higher than that.
At the time I opened it, it was the lowest one I could find. I see now that OJC and The Donors Fund have 0 fees on assets held.

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2021, 12:33:48 PM »
I purposely have my DAF at the same brokerage as my investment account (Schwab) transferring stock takes about 1 minute and it clears by the next day
after sending the stock to your Schwab DAF can you make a “donation” to OJC or the donors fund?

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2021, 12:43:18 PM »
after sending the stock to your Schwab DAF can you make a “donation” to OJC or the donors fund?
Yes I believe so, but what would be the point?

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2021, 12:55:06 PM »
Yes I believe so, but what would be the point?

Ostensibly to avoid capital gains on the stocks while continuing to use your non-Schwab DAF.
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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2021, 01:15:19 PM »
Anyone here donate stock through TDF? Any fees for that?

Yes, I've given them stock, there are no fees for that.

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2022, 04:29:47 PM »
Any halachic concerns investing maser money? eg would you owe more money if it goes down?

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2022, 07:59:37 PM »
Any halachic concerns investing maser money? eg would you owe more money if it goes down?

I would assume that only what you actually give to a tzedaka is counted as maaser.

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2022, 08:07:35 PM »
I would assume that only what you actually give to a tzedaka is counted as maaser.


Good point. I guess this would make calculations a little bit more difficult.

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2022, 08:26:02 PM »
I would assume that only what you actually give to a tzedaka is counted as maaser.
Not necessarily. If you lose money that was set aside for maaser you don't need to take off maaser again. I can see why this would be different, but IANAR.
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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2022, 06:49:06 PM »
So I've been using the donors fund for a couple of weeks. So far pretty good. I think the checks are confusing though. I have out a bunch and nobody redeemed them yet.

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2022, 11:38:06 AM »
So I've been using the donors fund for a couple of weeks. So far pretty good. I think the checks are confusing though. I gave out a bunch and nobody redeemed them yet.
could that mean they aren't 501c3????

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2022, 05:42:58 PM »
Just transferred appreciated shares to TDF. Will then transfer cash I planned to donate back into brokerage. Let's see how this goes.

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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2022, 05:45:23 PM »
could that mean they aren't 501c3????
They still didn't get redeemed?
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Re: DAF: The Donors Fund vs The OJC Fund
« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2022, 05:48:58 PM »
They still didn't get redeemed?
most did. some smaller ones didn't