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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2019, 05:39:33 PM »
Can we move the discussion part to another thread? @Dan @jj1000
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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2019, 05:41:39 PM »
Which thread? Nosy news? Fake news?
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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2019, 05:55:03 PM »
Which thread? Nosy news? Fake news?
Does not matter, just not in this thread.
This thread has done a good job of keeping itself on topic for the most part. Would like to see that continue.
Now I am adding to the problem so this will be my last post on it.
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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2019, 06:32:23 PM »
Which thread? Nosy news? Fake news?
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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2019, 06:35:23 PM »
Which thread? Nosy news? Fake news?
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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2019, 07:36:43 PM »
Yossi Bialo ZĒL

People need to once in a while check in on their friends and offer help if needed. Sometimes people need to be proactive and sense if a friend needs help even if the friend does not ask. Donít wait until itís too late, and donít assume ďsomeone elseĒ will help.

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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2019, 07:38:56 PM »
Why do people jump all over these things? At least a news agency just wants to break a story, but why do people care? A man is dead! It's terrible. It will change nothing if this guy was shot, or burned, or strangled, or hit by a car. There is no public safety concern. What more do we need to know? Imagine this was your family member c"v, would you want people scrambling for this info. Not to mention, there may be info involved that can be extremely shameful to the deceased or their family that definitely doesn't need to make it's rounds. Wish your condolences, and move on. Let the man rest in peace.

Sorry but we canít have it both ways. Social media has turned us into something less than human beings. When what I ate in which restaurant and my latest vacation pics with the wife and or kids becomes everyone elseís business( including on DDF), I have taken what used to be a reshus hayachid, my private life, and deliberately turned it into a reshus harabim. And that creates a sense of entitlement- people feel that they have a right to know what is going on in a reshus harabim. We have taken מה טובו אהליך יעקב, the concept of privacy in our homes and lives that Klal Yisrael once excelled in and discarded it for social media, and the secular concept of putting everything out there in the reshus harabim. Well, thatís what people do in a reshus harabim. They rubberneck.

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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2019, 08:06:09 PM »
Sorry but we canít have it both ways. Social media has turned us into something less than human beings. When what I ate in which restaurant and my latest vacation pics with the wife and or kids becomes everyone elseís business( including on DDF), I have taken what used to be a reshus hayachid, my private life, and deliberately turned it into a reshus harabim. And that creates a sense of entitlement- people feel that they have a right to know what is going on in a reshus harabim. We have taken מה טובו אהליך יעקב, the concept of privacy in our homes and lives that Klal Yisrael once excelled in and discarded it for social media, and the secular concept of putting everything out there in the reshus harabim. Well, thatís what people do in a reshus harabim. They rubberneck.
Well stated. Which is why some of us won't have Facebook accounts, limit Twitter use to necessary communication. And avoid most Whatsapp groups.
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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2019, 09:25:48 PM »
It's interesting how (relatively) calm DDF is. One would think there would be more chaos, given the relative annonymity that exists here. With Facebook, most people use their real name and picture.

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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2019, 09:33:03 PM »
It's interesting how (relatively) calm DDF is. One would think there would be more chaos, given the relative annonymity that exists here. With Facebook, most people use their real name and picture.
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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2019, 11:08:45 PM »
Sorry but we canít have it both ways. Social media has turned us into something less than human beings. When what I ate in which restaurant and my latest vacation pics with the wife and or kids becomes everyone elseís business( including on DDF), I have taken what used to be a reshus hayachid, my private life, and deliberately turned it into a reshus harabim. And that creates a sense of entitlement- people feel that they have a right to know what is going on in a reshus harabim. We have taken מה טובו אהליך יעקב, the concept of privacy in our homes and lives that Klal Yisrael once excelled in and discarded it for social media, and the secular concept of putting everything out there in the reshus harabim. Well, thatís what people do in a reshus harabim. They rubberneck.

Yep, It's why I deleted Facebook. I don't have Twitter Instagram Snapchat or any other of these.

But sometimes certain stories can help us be wise.

I was a pioneer of legal firearm ownership and training in South Florida

Zalman Meyer-smith of CSO will tell you that I was the first person here calling out these security issues

So I think like we need to protect everybody's privacy but also knowing what's really going on can often help us be alert.

I'm not commenting about this particular case because I don't know anything and I'm friends with the family and even if I wasn't the case I still would not comment in protecting and respecting everybody's privacy.

I'm just saying overall sometimes we see certain situations and it's important that we get an honest and clear picture of what happened so we can address to the appropriate way on the other hand or other times it's a clear violation of a family's desirable privacy which is just somebody sheer curiosity violating it

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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2019, 11:10:41 PM »
Sorry but we canít have it both ways. Social media has turned us into something less than human beings. When what I ate in which restaurant and my latest vacation pics with the wife and or kids becomes everyone elseís business( including on DDF), I have taken what used to be a reshus hayachid, my private life, and deliberately turned it into a reshus harabim. And that creates a sense of entitlement- people feel that they have a right to know what is going on in a reshus harabim. We have taken מה טובו אהליך יעקב, the concept of privacy in our homes and lives that Klal Yisrael once excelled in and discarded it for social media, and the secular concept of putting everything out there in the reshus harabim. Well, thatís what people do in a reshus harabim. They rubberneck.
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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2019, 11:16:09 PM »

But sometimes certain stories can help us be wise.

I'm just saying overall sometimes we see certain situations and it's important that we get an honest and clear picture of what happened so we can address to the appropriate way on the other hand or other times it's a clear violation of a family's desirable privacy which is just somebody sheer curiosity violating it
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For example, when it was written by several teenagers death 'untimely',but when they realized that informing the public that drug misuse was the cause, it made more awareness & education of how to detect and help them..

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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2019, 11:21:33 PM »


Sorry but we canít have it both ways. Social media has turned us into something less than human beings. When what I ate in which restaurant and my latest vacation pics with the wife and or kids becomes everyone elseís business( including on DDF), I have taken what used to be a reshus hayachid, my private life, and deliberately turned it into a reshus harabim. And that creates a sense of entitlement- people feel that they have a right to know what is going on in a reshus harabim. We have taken מה טובו אהליך יעקב, the concept of privacy in our homes and lives that Klal Yisrael once excelled in and discarded it for social media, and the secular concept of putting everything out there in the reshus harabim. Well, thatís what people do in a reshus harabim. They rubberneck.

No. Not at all. It's sad that people let social media dictate their lives. My life dictates my social media. I don't post things that I wouldn't otherwise have told those individuals about. I don't connect with people I wouldn't have otherwise. Some of us aren't led by outside sources in life. As a matter of fact, I post more info on DDF, than on my social media, specifically because I'm "anonymous". Also, as I said previously, even if our nature has changed a bit, that doesn't mean your mouth (or fingers) need to display that change externally. As is for everything, there is a line you don't cross, regardless of human nature. I never asked for it both ways, and I stand by what I said.
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Re: Spreading Fake News Via Whatsapp and Social Media
« Reply #59 on: December 24, 2019, 11:21:49 PM »




I'm just saying overall sometimes we see certain situations and it's important that we get an honest and clear picture of what happened so we can address to the appropriate way on the other hand or other times it's a clear violation of a family's desirable privacy which is just somebody sheer curiosity violating it

Very true.

In some situations, once a rumor is spread, you can understand that people are scared and want to hear if it was some type of attack, especially so soon after Jersey City. That was my reaction. However, once we find out that it wasn't anything like that,  everyone should mind their own business. There is a clear difference between inquiring about a story and spreading stories.