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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1708147 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1420 on: May 14, 2012, 12:11:32 PM »
Will getting A/A'd by chase screw up my credit?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1421 on: May 14, 2012, 12:56:52 PM »
Anyone taking up the case in small claims court yet?  I plan on doing as soon as I get a chance.


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1422 on: May 14, 2012, 01:19:53 PM »
Anyone taking up the case in small claims court yet?  I plan on doing as soon as I get a chance.

Why not CLASS ACTION!!!?

By the way how, long should I wait before applying for a new card?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1423 on: May 14, 2012, 03:22:21 PM »
class actions are useless if u want to get back what u r owed.  they are good for lawyers.  But if you have a legitimate case you might as well file in small claims court. 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1424 on: May 14, 2012, 03:25:54 PM »
class actions are useless if u want to get back what u r owed.  they are good for lawyers.  But if you have a legitimate case you might as well file in small claims court.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1425 on: May 14, 2012, 03:31:33 PM »
btw i would spell that meah achuz.  took me a while to figure out what u meant.  Dan needs to add hebrew fonts so we dont have to type in hebrish.


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1426 on: May 14, 2012, 04:00:44 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1427 on: May 14, 2012, 04:12:53 PM »
i bet u that is google's next project  ::)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1428 on: May 14, 2012, 05:20:18 PM »
btw i would spell that meah achuz.  took me a while to figure out what u meant.  Dan needs to add hebrew fonts so we dont have to type in hebrish.
How about just type in English so all members can understand.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1429 on: May 14, 2012, 05:26:01 PM »
Would freezing Experian help so that Chase would have to take soft pulls from other bureaus without a large number of inquiries, or would that cause that they should shut you down since they can't pull?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1430 on: May 14, 2012, 05:28:56 PM »
Would freezing Experian help so that Chase would have to take soft pulls from other bureaus without a large number of inquiries, or would that cause that they should shut you down since they can't pull?

Freezes do not preclude a current creditor from soft-pulling your CR.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1431 on: May 14, 2012, 05:36:37 PM »
Freezes do not preclude a current creditor from soft-pulling your CR.

how about after account closure?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1432 on: May 14, 2012, 06:12:50 PM »
btw i would spell that meah achuz.  took me a while to figure out what u meant.  Dan needs to add hebrew fonts so we dont have to type in hebrish.

Plus a dans Hebrew translate for us poor Goyem trying to understand what we are missing  :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Plus a dans Hebrew translate for us poor Goyem trying to understand what we are missing  :)
U ain't missing much  ;)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1434 on: May 14, 2012, 10:25:22 PM »
Has anyone tried applying for more Chase CC's post A/A?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1435 on: May 14, 2012, 11:20:21 PM »
only had it happen with amex to me...best thing do to is send in tax returns...or anything they ask for...they'll never shut you down that way.....only lower your credit limit..but if you don't send in anything....they will shut you down 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1436 on: May 14, 2012, 11:21:46 PM »
only had it happen with amex to me...best thing do to is send in tax returns...or anything they ask for...they'll never shut you down that way.....only lower your credit limit..but if you don't send in anything....they will shut you down
why are u saying that here when amex and chase are two entirely different beasts

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1437 on: May 14, 2012, 11:56:31 PM »
only had it happen with amex to me...best thing do to is send in tax returns...or anything they ask for...they'll never shut you down that way.....only lower your credit limit..but if you don't send in anything....they will shut you down 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1438 on: May 15, 2012, 10:49:46 AM »
Anyone taking up the case in small claims court yet?  I plan on doing as soon as I get a chance.

Strongly considering it, but it would likely mean getting blacklisted from Chase forever, win or lose. 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1439 on: May 15, 2012, 10:58:22 AM »
Strongly considering it, but it would likely mean getting blacklisted from Chase forever, win or lose.
Not necessarily, if you lose than you are likely to get blacklisted, but if you win than IMHO they won't blacklist you, they wouldn't want you to retake them to a claims court again, you made them look bad enough