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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1708534 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1460 on: May 16, 2012, 05:48:19 PM »
i never sold points- i never churned- and i was shut down

People, speak up!
Who else has done nothing wrong (to the best of your knowledge) and yet still got shut?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1461 on: May 16, 2012, 05:53:50 PM »
People, speak up!
Who else has done nothing wrong (to the best of your knowledge) and yet still got shut?

"All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1462 on: May 17, 2012, 03:56:44 AM »
helixcardinal

If what you listed on ur credit applications were factual and you did nothing wrong , you should try to get reinstated , may be better if first send a letter/letters with some proof  to try to resolve . or have an attorney do it for you

I just looked at welcome to ink  that comes with the c.c.

the t/c says " we may close or suspend  your account. Sometimes we close accounts based not on your actions or in actions ,but on our  business needs

Already sent multiple letters and had a paper dialogue about reinstatement.  No go.  Strongly considering small claims now, but even if I win, it won't give me back my credit cards.  All my spends and actions were well within the realm of legal, nothing even close to the borderline.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1463 on: May 17, 2012, 04:58:30 AM »
Already sent multiple letters and had a paper dialogue about reinstatement.  No go.  Strongly considering small claims now, but even if I win, it won't give me back my credit cards.  All my spends and actions were well within the realm of legal, nothing even close to the borderline.

did u send something to the "presidents  office "

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1464 on: May 17, 2012, 12:48:21 PM »
I haven't read through chase t&c, but amex has a arbitration clause so if you try to take them to court, they could just arbitrate instead.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1465 on: May 17, 2012, 12:50:06 PM »
I haven't read through chase t&c, but amex has a arbitration clause so if you try to take them to court, they could just arbitrate instead.

Do you think Chase has a better case in arbitration?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1466 on: May 17, 2012, 01:54:41 PM »
Just saying won't make it on peoples court

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1467 on: May 17, 2012, 04:24:07 PM »
did u send something to the "presidents  office "

Everything was sent via the executive office.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1468 on: May 17, 2012, 05:00:04 PM »
Do the people who got A/A have bank accounts with chase or just Credit cards?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1469 on: May 17, 2012, 07:38:10 PM »
Do the people who got A/A have bank accounts with chase or just Credit cards?

Have a checking account with them that didn't close down.  Closing it once I've redirected DD.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1470 on: May 17, 2012, 07:44:06 PM »
Just saying won't make it on peoples court
FYI peolples courts is arbitration

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1471 on: May 17, 2012, 10:39:41 PM »
Do the people who got A/A have bank accounts with chase or just Credit cards?
It's possible to get checking accounts A/A'd
But it is not usually connected to the CC A/A (IME)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1472 on: May 18, 2012, 01:57:03 AM »
It's possible to get checking accounts A/A'd
But it is not usually connected to the CC A/A (IME)

In other people's experience it is.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1473 on: May 18, 2012, 06:50:41 AM »
Wondering what you think.. I recently applied for 3 new chase cards (I had already).. I was able to get two approved..

I am wondering if there is any increased risk if I apply for a new card for my wife? Will that be seen as if we have applied for too many cards and increase our risk of getting audited?

Also we currently live at family members home who probably has additional chase cards at same address could that be an issue?

Thanks

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1474 on: May 18, 2012, 10:40:05 AM »
You guys seem to be missing something, when you have to do arbitration with amex you have to do it with their chosen arbitration firm, you don't have the option to choose your preferred firm. I know it smells corrupted, but that's the fact.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1475 on: May 18, 2012, 04:02:31 PM »
Wondering what you think.. I recently applied for 3 new chase cards (I had already).. I was able to get two approved..

I am wondering if there is any increased risk if I apply for a new card for my wife? Will that be seen as if we have applied for too many cards and increase our risk of getting audited?

Also we currently live at family members home who probably has additional chase cards at same address could that be an issue?

Thanks

I think it'll only make them more suspicious if they're already reviewing your account, I don't think it'll raise any red flags on its own.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1476 on: May 19, 2012, 08:32:03 PM »
You guys seem to be missing something, when you have to do arbitration with amex you have to do it with their chosen arbitration firm, you don't have the option to choose your preferred firm. I know it smells corrupted, but that's the fact.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1477 on: May 20, 2012, 09:32:36 AM »
-1 on your -1.
Check over the t&c, most companies say clearly that you have to go to their chosen firm.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1478 on: May 20, 2012, 09:44:43 AM »
Oiy.

One day you'll learn not to just run your mouth.

For now, you can digest this: http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/07/24/the-revolution-rolls-on-jpmorgan-chase-suspends-arbitration-activity/

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1479 on: May 20, 2012, 11:12:08 AM »
I didn't say chase require to agree for arbitration, I have no idea, I was just saying that the companies (whoever it is) that do require arbitration, require you to agree that you'll be binded to use the firm they prefer.
I have no idea about chase particularly.
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