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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1706503 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1800 on: October 12, 2012, 05:00:46 PM »
Agreed, but <100k in transfers doesn't sound like abuse to me. At least I have 5+ active UR accounts ATM :)
he says

i recently received a transfer of 40k points from a friend who i had lent points to before she got the card. i have received a few of these in the past.


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1801 on: October 12, 2012, 05:02:53 PM »
he says

Right, but the old style A/As were for people doing larger transfers, not a few smaller ones here and there. Overall it's a wash (IMHO) if Ch"V we end up with more (albeit less severe) A/As.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1802 on: October 12, 2012, 05:20:41 PM »
Quote
Link?

Not sure whatcha want a link for.

I said that i have been hearing significant rumors. This means that i have heard from actual travel agencies who buy points that they have been getting phone calls about people who have had their accounts closed.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1803 on: October 12, 2012, 05:35:15 PM »
Not sure whatcha want a link for.

I said that i have been hearing significant rumors. This means that i have heard from actual travel agencies who buy points that they have been getting phone calls about people who have had their accounts closed.

That answers it. Just wondered where you heard/saw it.

Agreed, but <100k in transfers doesn't sound like abuse to me. At least I have 5+ active UR accounts ATM :)

But "abuse" it is, acc to T&C.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1804 on: October 13, 2012, 09:23:11 PM »
My friend just got shut down after being with chase  years and 60k in credit. Reason they gave was someone transferred  points in to her UR account then transferred to airline which they say was against their rules

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1805 on: October 13, 2012, 09:41:10 PM »
Do you know how many points it was

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1806 on: October 13, 2012, 09:59:21 PM »
Do you know how many points it was
Believe 100k

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1807 on: October 13, 2012, 10:12:45 PM »
Believe 100k

did he sell the points?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1808 on: October 13, 2012, 10:19:49 PM »
did he sell the points?

She transferred them to ua

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1809 on: October 13, 2012, 10:43:12 PM »
She transferred them to ua
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1810 on: October 13, 2012, 10:58:19 PM »
who cares, its his mother sister cousin

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1811 on: October 13, 2012, 11:03:20 PM »
She transferred them to ua
She actually transferred to Korean air

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1812 on: October 13, 2012, 11:09:56 PM »
Is this the first report of a potential red flag for a person transferring to a partner?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1813 on: October 13, 2012, 11:13:55 PM »
Is this the first report of a potential red flag for a person transferring to a partner?
Again they told her the problem was that the points were transferred into her account.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1814 on: October 13, 2012, 11:21:08 PM »
right, missed that. Seems like a couple of people have been discussing this on FT as well.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1815 on: October 13, 2012, 11:24:25 PM »
She transferred them to ua

Sorry I made a mistake.


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1816 on: October 14, 2012, 02:46:16 PM »
My friend just got shut down after being with chase  years and 60k in credit. Reason they gave was someone transferred  points in to her UR account then transferred to airline which they say was against their rules

Sorry to hear that.
Did they shut all her cards and checking accounts (if any)?
What about the remaining UR points (if any), where they confiscated, or do they allow to redeem?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1817 on: October 14, 2012, 02:58:14 PM »
They told my friend he can now reapply for the SP, I'm trying to push him to give it a try...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1818 on: October 14, 2012, 03:08:39 PM »
My friend just got shut down after being with chase  years and 60k in credit. Reason they gave was someone transferred  points in to her UR account then transferred to airline which they say was against their rules

I don't get why that's against their rules. It was the transfer in of large amounts not the transferring out,  correct?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #1819 on: October 14, 2012, 03:32:16 PM »
I don't get why that's against their rules. It was the transfer in of large amounts not the transferring out,  correct?
, i was told by a chase rep when i  inquired about bonus points i didnt receive, he was reviewing my account and he said "by the way i see u have a transfer from freedom to saphire and from there to an airline you can get shut down for that". I told him its not against T&c. and left it at that. It could be hes wrong just letting you know