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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1710153 times)

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Chase is closing my account because of selling UR Points!!
« Reply #2040 on: December 09, 2012, 10:11:16 AM »
I recently sold my UR point to someone, I have no idea what he did like how he transferred it out.

But I just got a letter from chase stating that they dont allow transferring pf points to other people besides spouse etc. and therefore they are closing my Sapphire account in 6 days.

Any suggestions what I should do? I guess first thing I should try to convince them to change their opinion?
Should I close the card myself so it shouldn't affect my credit report or it dosnt matter?

Anybody else with similar experience?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2041 on: December 09, 2012, 10:24:18 AM »
Seems like Chase is picking up the pace again.
Looks like I'll be hanging onto my points for the time being.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2042 on: December 09, 2012, 10:56:15 AM »
When is it safe to start applying again for chase cards? I was shut down about a year ago...
About 6-9 months ago. What were you shut down for?
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Re: Re: Chase is closing my account because of selling UR Points!!
« Reply #2043 on: December 09, 2012, 11:37:38 AM »
I recently sold my UR point to someone, I have no idea what he did like how he transferred it out.

But I just got a letter from chase stating that they dont allow transferring pf points to other people besides spouse etc. and therefore they are closing my Sapphire account in 6 days.

Any suggestions what I should do? I guess first thing I should try to convince them to change their opinion?
Should I close the card myself so it shouldn't affect my credit report or it dosnt matter?

Anybody else with similar experience?
same thing just happened to me any ideas?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2044 on: December 09, 2012, 11:43:01 AM »
About 6-9 months ago. What were you shut down for?
not sure- i think i was 2 aggressive with applications...

Are you saying that 3-6 months after being shut down, i can try again?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2045 on: December 09, 2012, 11:47:06 AM »
not sure- i think i was 2 aggressive with applications...

Are you saying that 3-6 months after being shut down, i can try again?
All my cards were shut down because one of the cards was "not used as intended". I applied for the IB card about 4-5 months later and was approved.
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Re: Chase is closing my account because of selling UR Points!!
« Reply #2046 on: December 09, 2012, 12:01:38 PM »
I recently sold my UR point to someone, I have no idea what he did like how he transferred it out.

But I just got a letter from chase stating that they dont allow transferring pf points to other people besides spouse etc. and therefore they are closing my Sapphire account in 6 days.

Any suggestions what I should do? I guess first thing I should try to convince them to change their opinion?
Should I close the card myself so it shouldn't affect my credit report or it dosnt matter?

Anybody else with similar experience?

same thing just happened to me any ideas?

How many points did you guys sell?

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Re: Chase is closing my account because of selling UR Points!!
« Reply #2047 on: December 09, 2012, 01:01:42 PM »
How many points did you guys sell?
about 80k

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Re: Chase is closing my account because of selling UR Points!!
« Reply #2048 on: December 09, 2012, 01:06:01 PM »
It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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Re: Chase is closing my account because of selling UR Points!!
« Reply #2049 on: December 09, 2012, 01:12:16 PM »
about 80k

Did you transfer your points to someone else's UR account, or someone else's FF account?

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Re: Chase is closing my account because of selling UR Points!!
« Reply #2050 on: December 09, 2012, 02:05:07 PM »
Did you transfer your points to someone else's UR account, or someone else's FF account?

I recently sold my UR point to someone, I have no idea what he did like how he transferred it out.

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Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2051 on: December 09, 2012, 02:37:29 PM »
He can always just check no?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2052 on: December 09, 2012, 02:38:30 PM »
my wifes spp was closed bc of a lot of transfer about 20-30, waited about about 30-60 days did a 3bm and got 2 out 3 approved and when i was trying to get third approved they said we see you had an acct closed of inactivity! Lol!  i hope to get the 3rd aproved soon..
so i wouldn't be so worried if you got the letter..just reapply for another spp or 3 new cards!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2053 on: December 10, 2012, 09:02:12 AM »

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2054 on: December 10, 2012, 10:46:39 AM »
It there any I can convince chase to keep open my sapphire card I am getting closed down for transferring ur to another account

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2055 on: December 10, 2012, 10:49:09 AM »
It there any I can convince chase to keep open my sapphire card I am getting closed down for transferring ur to another account

Are you able to save your points on that account?
It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2056 on: December 10, 2012, 10:54:54 AM »
Interesting post by a blogger who was hit with the A/A

http://hackmytrip.com/2012/12/what-i-did-when-chase-tried-to-cancel-my-sapphire-preferred-card/

...and didn't survive.

(But was able to salvage his points.)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2057 on: December 10, 2012, 11:12:53 AM »
(But was able to salvage his points.)
And his CL
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2058 on: December 10, 2012, 12:17:55 PM »
So a family member of mine received "the letter" from chase due to me transferring UR points pn their account. The thing is that person received UR points from her spouse and sent those UR points together with her own UR points to a different persons (not a family member) FFN 5minutes later.
First of all I had did not know that was a trigger...anyone else got a/a'd for transferring to united?

Second of all...is there any hope in getting them to keep open the cc which the letter said they will be closing in 2 days? If not, is it better for me to call and cancel the card first (and transfer the CL)?

The UR points in that account are around 1000 so I'm not so worried about the points.

I know anything can happen but what are the chances of chase deciding to shut down the whole account? The letter only mentioned they will close down the SP that was involved in the transfers

TIA!
And I did read a majority of this thread but as yudig put it...it went ot many times and no definite answer yet.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2059 on: December 10, 2012, 12:22:31 PM »
So a family member of mine received "the letter" from chase due to me transferring UR points pn their account. The thing is that person received UR points from her spouse and sent those UR points together with her own UR points to a different persons (not a family member) FFN 5minutes later.
First of all I had did not know that was a trigger...anyone else got a/a'd for transferring to united?

Second of all...is there any hope in getting them to keep open the cc which the letter said they will be closing in 2 days? If not, is it better for me to call and cancel the card first (and transfer the CL)?

The UR points in that account are around 1000 so I'm not so worried about the points.

I know anything can happen but what are the chances of chase deciding to shut down the whole account? The letter only mentioned they will close down the SP that was involved in the transfers

TIA!
And I did read a majority of this thread but as yudig put it...it went ot many times and no definite answer yet.

1) Receiving from a non-spouse is against the T&C and is (obv) a trigger.
2) Very unlikely, but there have been a few who have managed it.
3) Unlikely.
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