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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1710074 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2160 on: December 11, 2012, 11:54:52 PM »
everybody who is scared about the "Black MarK"
My wifes spp was closed due to 20-30 transfer from other ppl "UR" to diff ffn#
30-60 days later i 3bmm Amex got all approved
did 3bm for chase got 2 out of 3 approved only bc she didn't have enough leverage
Chase did ask "why are applying for so many cards and we see one of your cards was shut down for iinactivity"
point is..there is NO BLACK MARK...KEEP CHURNING!!

Also my spp and ink bold was shut down
transferred the CL from spp to hyatt before they close it tom.
applied for ink plus and they Closed my ink bold to open the Ink Plus!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2161 on: December 12, 2012, 09:46:46 AM »
My wifes spp was closed due to 20-30 transfer from other ppl "UR" to diff ffn#

What does this mean in English.

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« Reply #2162 on: December 12, 2012, 09:49:40 AM »
His wife's sapphire preferred card was shut down. He had transferred in UR points from multiple accounts and transferred them out to many different frequent flyer accounts.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2163 on: December 12, 2012, 09:53:15 AM »
if i was shout down due to Credit Risk will i be on the Black MarK list ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2164 on: December 12, 2012, 09:57:43 AM »
if i was shout down due to Credit Risk will i be on the Black MarK list ?
Voldermort  around:)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2165 on: December 12, 2012, 09:59:17 AM »
Voldermort  around:)

Black *dark* mark

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2166 on: December 12, 2012, 10:08:09 AM »
It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2167 on: December 12, 2012, 10:30:31 AM »
if i was shut down due to Credit Risk will i be on the Black MarK list ?

FTFY

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2168 on: December 12, 2012, 11:03:14 AM »
Black *dark* mark

It feels the same to me the way people are talking about it.
 Black = evil = dark = voldemort 


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2169 on: December 12, 2012, 11:10:39 AM »
everybody who is scared about the "Black MarK"...there is NO BLACK MARK...KEEP CHURNING!!
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Because that black mark will stay on your permanent file now.
Hmm...I may be too cautious but I think I'll be going with Dan on this one.
It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2170 on: December 12, 2012, 11:32:16 AM »
Hmm...I may be too cautious but I think I'll be going with Dan on this one.

Remember : Hogs get slaughtered  :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2171 on: December 12, 2012, 12:23:55 PM »
Correct but if meshugener is going to answer for me I guess I can stop posting.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2172 on: December 17, 2012, 03:41:28 PM »
Can anyone please help me. This one is brutal...

I had four Chase accounts open (including a Sapphire, United, Freedom, and Ink) and had about 300K UR points in my Sapphire account. Then, about a month ago, I made a large purchase and divided it between my cards (a few thousand on each). The next morning I find out that all of the cards have been closed by some department (-most likely they were afraid of fraud or something-) and my points are all gone!

Is there anyone I can talk to??

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2173 on: December 17, 2012, 03:45:13 PM »
Can anyone please help me. This one is brutal...

I had four Chase accounts open (including a Sapphire, United, Freedom, and Ink) and had about 300K UR points in my Sapphire account. Then, about a month ago, I made a large purchase and divided it between my cards (a few thousand on each). The next morning I find out that all of the cards have been closed by some department (-most likely they were afraid of fraud or something-) and my points are all gone!

Is there anyone I can talk to??
did you call that department?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2174 on: December 17, 2012, 04:02:53 PM »
did you call that department?

There is apparently no one to talk to at that department. The ones I get through to simply read some statement about how Chase has made a decision to 'discontinue doing business' with me (or something like that).

I have read through most of the pages in this thread and understand that this has happened before (many times). Does anyone who this has happened to have any suggestions for me?

Thanks!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2175 on: December 17, 2012, 04:03:28 PM »
There is apparently no one to talk to at that department. The ones I get through to simply read some statement about how Chase has made a decision to 'discontinue doing business' with me (or something like that).

I have read through most of the pages in this thread and understand that this has happened before (many times). Does anyone who this has happened to have any suggestions for me?

Thanks!
you can try calling the executive office

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2176 on: December 17, 2012, 04:09:41 PM »
you can try calling the executive office

Number please? Can you confirm that this worked for anyone?

Thanks!!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2177 on: December 17, 2012, 04:11:22 PM »
Can anyone please help me. This one is brutal...

I had four Chase accounts open (including a Sapphire, United, Freedom, and Ink) and had about 300K UR points in my Sapphire account. Then, about a month ago, I made a large purchase and divided it between my cards (a few thousand on each). The next morning I find out that all of the cards have been closed by some department (-most likely they were afraid of fraud or something-) and my points are all gone!

Is there anyone I can talk to??
Did you ever transfer points?


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2178 on: December 17, 2012, 04:12:00 PM »
Did then send a letter about why the account was closed?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2179 on: December 17, 2012, 04:41:18 PM »
I had this problem with chase and after getting a few pointers from a ddf'r via PM (thank you for your help!), and doing a little of my own research and contacting some people in Chase I was very recently able to get all my cards reinstated, they even reinstated an account I closed in order to open a sapphire.  Took some work but glad to be back. I even got them to apologize to me for the abrupt closure esp. that I was such a good customer....
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