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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2200 on: December 20, 2012, 07:31:00 AM »
Against the T&C's...that's what most people are reporting the reason for the A/A
Are you sure the receiver is breaking the T&C's? I know the sender is.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2201 on: December 20, 2012, 07:33:45 AM »
Are you sure the receiver is breaking the T&C's? I know the sender is.
Yup. If not it would be kinda crazy that alot of people are reporting being shut for not breaking the T&C's.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2202 on: December 20, 2012, 07:35:04 AM »
Are you sure the receiver is breaking the T&C's? I know the sender is.
I recently had 2 cards shut for receiving.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2203 on: December 20, 2012, 07:41:07 AM »
I recently had 2 cards shut for receiving.
Being shut down and breaking the T&C's is not the same. Many with the AARP card were shut down without violating the T&C's.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2204 on: December 20, 2012, 07:41:48 AM »
I recently had 2 cards shut for receiving.
How recent? Were you able to close them before they shut you down? Able to save the points?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2205 on: December 20, 2012, 08:32:05 AM »
Being shut down and breaking the T&C's is not the same. Many with the AARP card were shut down without violating the T&C's.
Letter said receiving is against T & C
How recent? Were you able to close them before they shut you down? Able to save the points?
1 recent, 1 a few months ago. 1 yes, 1 no. Yes
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« Reply #2206 on: December 20, 2012, 08:32:09 AM »
Is it possible if someone does a UR >FF transfer to someones elses FF. Can they claw back the FF points?


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2207 on: December 20, 2012, 08:48:06 AM »
Why would they shut down the receiving account?

As mentioned, the receiving account is the one shut down in the overwhelming majority of account closures, not the sender (for whatever reason).
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2208 on: December 20, 2012, 08:51:43 AM »
Is it possible if someone does a UR >FF transfer to someones elses FF. Can they claw back the FF points?

No reported cases of this, and I doubt there will be either.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2209 on: December 20, 2012, 11:47:52 AM »
Letter said receiving is against T & C
Interesting, going to have to read the T&C's.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2210 on: December 20, 2012, 01:00:25 PM »
Being shut down and breaking the T&C's is not the same. Many with the AARP card were shut down without violating the T&C's.

+1

Chase also shuts people down for what is unofficially referred to as "perk abuse", such as in the case of the AARP card, or people making a gazillion 1-cent purchases on the Freedom card.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2211 on: December 20, 2012, 01:06:51 PM »
As is there right...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2212 on: December 20, 2012, 01:29:32 PM »
As is there right...

"there"?!

C'mon, AJK, you - of all people - should know better... :P

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« Reply #2213 on: December 20, 2012, 01:32:32 PM »
"there"?!

C'mon, AJK, you - of all people - should know better... :P

It's what I get for trying to draft opposition to a summary judgment motion at the same time as checking DDF. Awesome. Let's just hope I'm making the mistakes here and not in the motion :P

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2214 on: December 20, 2012, 01:56:54 PM »
It's what I get for trying to draft opposition to a summary judgment motion at the same time as checking DDF. Awesome. Let's just hope I'm making the mistakes here and not in the motion :P

Shame on you. Serves you right for distracting yourself with nonsense, instead of fully focusing on what's important.







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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2215 on: December 20, 2012, 03:51:31 PM »
Shame on you. Serves you right for distracting yourself with nonsense, instead of fully focusing on what's important.

Now, put that darn draft aside, and pay more attention to what really counts, okay? ;D

This schmooze is getting really interesting...  :P ;D ;) :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2216 on: December 20, 2012, 04:57:02 PM »
As is there right...
Just because they say so does not make it their right. When it is challenged and then upheld in court it will be their right.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2217 on: December 20, 2012, 04:58:27 PM »
This schmooze is getting really interesting...  :P ;D ;) :)
It looks like its pretty much done  ???
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2218 on: December 20, 2012, 05:11:24 PM »
Just because they say so does not make it their right. When it is challenged and then upheld in court it will be their right.

Whether you like it or not, they can refuse to do business with you.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2219 on: December 20, 2012, 05:14:43 PM »
Whether you like it or not, they can refuse to do business with you.
We are going to have to agree to disagree.
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