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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1709285 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2320 on: January 29, 2013, 05:08:26 PM »
Please share with us how you were reinstated. There are many out there still trying to get reopened. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Well as soon as I found out - which was right away practically - I did HUCA till I got a nice person who transferred me from supervisor to supervisor - basically told them that I have a very high credit score ,I always pay my bills in full and on time etc. ...

Took a grand total of 2 hours
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2321 on: January 29, 2013, 05:18:16 PM »
How long after getting A/A'd (and then getting reinstated right after the AA) could one start applying for new chase cards?

is waiting 3 months enough if you have a good credit line-should you wait longer than that?

does it make a difference which card you apply for?

 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2322 on: January 30, 2013, 07:54:46 PM »
I just swiped my sapphire with a CL of $7K, $16,000
And united with a CL of $4K  $11,000

And it went through......
HelpMe is probably an expert on this.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2323 on: January 31, 2013, 03:59:15 AM »
How long after getting A/A'd (and then getting reinstated right after the AA) could one start applying for new chase cards?

is waiting 3 months enough if you have a good credit line-should you wait longer than that?

does it make a difference which card you apply for?

 

Well i was told to try again - its been a year- went for a sapphire prefered and was regected- when i called reconsideration they told me (something in this line) - "due tp my previouse negatives relationship Chase has selected to bar me from new accounts" 
Any ideas/thought explanations? 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2324 on: January 31, 2013, 02:33:52 PM »
Well i was told to try again - its been a year- went for a sapphire prefered and was regected- when i called reconsideration they told me (something in this line) - "due tp my previouse negatives relationship Chase has selected to bar me from new accounts" 
Any ideas/thought explanations? 
How many cards did you have with chase when you were a/a'd?

Do you know why you were a/a'd ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2325 on: January 31, 2013, 03:21:18 PM »
How many cards did you have with chase when you were a/a'd?

Do you know why you were a/a'd ?
6 maybe...including 1 buisness
no clue
they said i was a risk

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2326 on: January 31, 2013, 03:24:09 PM »
I guess trying again after a year wont hurt

if that doesn't work-maybe you  will have luck with the eo...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2327 on: January 31, 2013, 08:34:02 PM »
Well i was told to try again - its been a year- went for a sapphire prefered and was regected- when i called reconsideration they told me (something in this line) - "due tp my previouse negatives relationship Chase has selected to bar me from new accounts" 
Any ideas/thought explanations?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2328 on: February 12, 2013, 10:24:01 PM »
Can too many business card applications affect an AA on my personal cards? Just trying to decide if I should transfer out the UR points 123k

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2329 on: February 12, 2013, 10:28:26 PM »
Has anyone gotten A/A from transferring IB.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2330 on: February 12, 2013, 10:58:29 PM »
Does the AA kill everyone at that address?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2331 on: February 12, 2013, 11:00:56 PM »
Does the AA kill everyone at that address?
IME, no.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2332 on: February 13, 2013, 01:39:53 PM »
Does the AA kill everyone at that address?
IME, no.

Many people in this thread have reported that affected multiple people at the same address so it's YMMV.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2333 on: February 13, 2013, 01:48:03 PM »
Many people in this thread have reported that affected multiple people at the same address so it's YMMV.

IME, no.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2334 on: February 13, 2013, 01:55:07 PM »


I  wasn't arguing with you,  that's why I wrote YMMV  because you had one experience and  some previous posters had another.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2335 on: February 13, 2013, 01:56:59 PM »
I am assuming that transferring UR points to someone else's United account does not pose any A/A risk. Is this correct?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2336 on: February 13, 2013, 02:01:03 PM »
I am assuming that transferring UR points to someone else's United account does not pose any A/A risk. Is this correct?

No reports yet.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2337 on: February 13, 2013, 02:01:12 PM »
I am assuming that transferring UR points to someone else's United account does not pose any A/A risk. Is this correct?

 Hard to say any,  but we haven't seen reports of people getting shut down for that.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2338 on: February 13, 2013, 04:29:02 PM »
Hard to say any,  but we haven't seen reports of people getting shut down for that.

Are you sure about that. IIRC in the past someone was shut down for trNsfering UR points to
an account with a different last name . Maybe I saw it in FT but just saying

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2339 on: February 14, 2013, 02:49:04 AM »
So aside from yomo, who we are still unsure what he did exactly, has anyone verified any reports of an A/A in the last three months that closed more than just the offending card? And I mean for UR "abuse", not overly high CL, too many apps, etc.
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