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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1709737 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2360 on: March 03, 2013, 03:45:46 AM »
Did you try calling the executive office?

How long is your relationship with chase?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2361 on: March 03, 2013, 03:09:39 PM »
Did you try calling the executive office?
I don't have their phone number, anyone have it?
I did talk to a banker who was trying to convince me about two weeks ago to open a business account with him and I told him that I was hesitant because Chase does this all the time to which he replied that they only do it if there is something really shady like weird countries wires etc., and he said he would be able to help if it was done to a kosher account.
He still needs to get back to me... Not holding my breath..
How long is your relationship with chase?
Over 10 years.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2362 on: March 03, 2013, 03:49:49 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2363 on: March 03, 2013, 03:50:51 PM »
The banker who was trying to convince you to get a business account was before or after your story- I didn't get get it??

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2364 on: March 03, 2013, 03:54:24 PM »
I remember reading somewhere that cashing checks, and not depositing them into your account, is a reason for Chase to close your account, but I have no experience with this
I do this w/ a few thousand dollars a month and they never complained yet.
I do have savings there to cash against so maybe that changes things
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2365 on: March 06, 2013, 12:13:59 AM »
The banker who was trying to convince you to get a business account was before or after your story- I didn't get get it??
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2366 on: March 06, 2013, 03:24:22 PM »
any luck with the executive office?

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UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2367 on: March 09, 2013, 09:41:08 PM »
Last time I transferred UR points to an airline a note came up on the screen that
points are only for transferring to relatives etc not for selling.
Is that routine, or a reason for concern?

- I have made transfers of 8K, 20K, and 12K to 3 different united accounts.

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2368 on: March 09, 2013, 09:43:04 PM »
been there for about six months.

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2369 on: March 09, 2013, 09:44:14 PM »
Last time I transferred UR points to an airline a note came up on the screen that
points are only for transferring to relatives etc not for selling.
Is that routine, or a reason for concern?

- I have made transfers of 8K, 20K, and 12K to 3 different united accounts.

It's something to be aware of. According to Chase points are only to be transferred to your account or a spouse. Everything else is a risk to a certain extent.
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2370 on: March 09, 2013, 09:45:26 PM »
Any particular precautions I should be taking?

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2371 on: March 09, 2013, 09:46:37 PM »
Any particular precautions I should be taking?

Transfer to your account or spouse? Personally I'll transfer to anyone with same last name.
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2372 on: March 09, 2013, 09:49:34 PM »
Does that mean its an end to the days of sellin points to a broker for 1.8 and transferring them to random people at his request?

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2373 on: March 09, 2013, 09:52:14 PM »
Does that mean its an end to the days of sellin points to a broker for 1.8 and transferring them to random people at his request?

It means plenty of people have cut back on transfers since there have been accounts shut down. Other haven't stopped yet.
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2374 on: March 09, 2013, 09:55:42 PM »
Would it be safer to transfer them to my own united account and book someone else a ticket with my miles instead?

Doesn't help when someone needs a top up.

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2375 on: March 09, 2013, 10:00:28 PM »
Would it be safer to transfer them to my own united account and book someone else a ticket with my miles instead?

Doesn't help when someone needs a top up.

:-(
that would lower your sell price sinificantly.
If you are selling once in a while I'd say no big deal.
Assess the risk,
If they shut down your sapphire you can make another.  ::)
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2376 on: March 09, 2013, 10:01:43 PM »
that would lower your sell price sinificantly.
If you are selling once in a while I'd say no big deal.
Assess the risk,
If they shut down your sapphire you can make another.  ::)

Yes but some people have been AA'd and you gotta decide if it's worth the risk.
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2377 on: March 09, 2013, 11:41:01 PM »
Right, more often than not that this ends with A/A which renders you unable to open another Sapphire or any other Chase CC for that matter.
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2378 on: March 09, 2013, 11:52:35 PM »
Bummer. I'm accumulating UR, and in my head it's cash. 100K UR - $1,800.
Not looking so good anymore.

Can I expect anymore warning, or is every transfer taking a risk of A/A?

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2379 on: March 10, 2013, 12:16:10 AM »
Noone has ported being shut down for just UR>Airline transfers though that can always change.
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