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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2400 on: March 11, 2013, 08:31:34 AM »
Sell UR to a broker who transfers to his UA. Its pretty simple!

btw whats the going rate for united miles?
seems like it went from 1.8 to 1.5

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2401 on: March 11, 2013, 08:41:39 AM »
If you get an AA, all your cards get closed, and you can never open a Chase account again?
Most of the time all your cards are closed. It is not a lifetime ban but there is no set timeframe.
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2402 on: March 11, 2013, 09:54:55 AM »
btw whats the going rate for united miles?
seems like it went from 1.8 to 1.5
you could get 1.6 if you have like 150k but find a end user and the value goes up.

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2403 on: March 11, 2013, 10:20:32 AM »
When did it drop?

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2404 on: March 11, 2013, 10:23:08 AM »
If I have transferred UR in the past, both to UA and UR, and since churned the card multiple times meaning that my UR account has been closed, am I safe?

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2405 on: March 11, 2013, 10:27:24 AM »
If I have transferred UR in the past, both to UA and UR, and since churned the card multiple times meaning that my UR account has been closed, am I safe?
Best guess, yes.
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2406 on: March 11, 2013, 10:28:32 AM »
If I have transferred UR in the past, both to UA and UR, and since churned the card multiple times meaning that my UR account has been closed, am I safe?

No one is safe. Unfortunately they can close down your accounts at anytime for any reason they see fit. And transfers are def a risk. 
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2407 on: March 11, 2013, 10:32:37 AM »
No one is safe. Unfortunately they can close down your accounts at anytime for any reason they see fit. And transfers are def a risk.
You can never be 100% safe. Have seen one report of accounts being closed with the parameters that MosheP laid out?
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2408 on: March 11, 2013, 10:36:49 AM »
You can never be 100% safe. Have seen one report of accounts being closed with the parameters that MosheP laid out?

Accounts closed because of transfers? Yes.
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2409 on: March 11, 2013, 10:53:14 AM »
Then he will pay me the UA price!
i was stating a fact. Some reliable brokers do this for the same great price.
Im I not being clear?

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2410 on: March 11, 2013, 11:03:12 AM »
Were all cards from Chase closed down?
I knew two people all their cards from Chase were closed down by doing the transfer.

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2411 on: March 11, 2013, 11:07:50 AM »
Accounts closed because of transfers? Yes.
Thats not what MosheP was asking. The accounts the transfer were made on are now closed. The new accounts should not be at risk unless more transfers are done.
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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2412 on: March 11, 2013, 11:23:00 AM »
Thanks all for the great answers.

Would transferring all UR to a SP, IB or IP that will be closed in the near future for churning make sense to avoid the A/A. Have they A/A'd closed accounts in the past?

Have there been reports of A/A when transferring from a biz CC?

How about adding an AU with the same name as the pax being booked? I.e the broker lets you know what name will be on the ticket, you quickly call and add an AU with that name...........

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Re: UR transfer warning. A/A risk?
« Reply #2413 on: March 11, 2013, 02:39:16 PM »
How about adding an AU with the same name as the pax being booked? I.e the broker lets you know what name will be on the ticket, you quickly call and add an AU with that name...........

I highly doubt that would make a difference.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2414 on: March 13, 2013, 10:16:47 PM »
I got A/A'd just on my checking account. Anyone else had that experience?
Are they going after my CC's eventually?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2415 on: March 13, 2013, 10:40:12 PM »
I got A/A'd just on my checking account. Anyone else had that experience?
Are they going after my CC's eventually?
is this a new story or just a quick chazarah? last time it was checking and savins

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2416 on: March 13, 2013, 10:45:33 PM »
I got A/A'd just on my checking account. Anyone else had that experience?
Are they going after my CC's eventually?
Usually it is the other way around.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2417 on: March 13, 2013, 10:56:22 PM »
All this talk about A/A is getting me scared. I didn't know what it was, but I just read the wiki.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2418 on: March 13, 2013, 11:00:12 PM »
All this talk about A/A is getting me scared. I didn't know what it was, but I just read the wiki.

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