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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1709310 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2420 on: March 13, 2013, 11:06:44 PM »
All this talk about A/A is getting me scared. I didn't know what it was, but I just read the wiki.
If you don't transfer UR illegally, you keep your CLs on all your cards low compared to your income, pay your bills on time, don't let huge balances rack up, you should be good. 


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2421 on: March 13, 2013, 11:10:15 PM »
is this a new story or just a quick chazarah? last time it was checking and savins
Good memory! It's the same story. Sorry forgot to include savings as well.

Since my original post about this was rather lengthy and now I just have one question I reposted the question in short.

Just looking for someone who had this who can share their experience in the CC department after having been A/A'd on the checking/savings accounts.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2422 on: March 13, 2013, 11:10:29 PM »
Usually it is the other way around.
True but this is what happened to me ultimately.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2423 on: March 14, 2013, 03:32:55 PM »
True but this is what happened to me ultimately.
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Short answer guess, no.
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« Reply #2424 on: March 14, 2013, 07:35:34 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2425 on: March 14, 2013, 07:43:57 PM »
Based on?
Past experiences with Chase.
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« Reply #2426 on: March 14, 2013, 08:01:09 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2427 on: March 15, 2013, 01:46:06 PM »
PSA:

Chase is doing another round of card closures, heard from 2 people about accounts just shut down. If you have alot of UR points you should sell now or transfer to you united and sell later at a lower rate
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2428 on: March 15, 2013, 01:54:37 PM »
PSA:

Chase is doing another round of card closures, heard from 2 people about accounts just shut down. If you have alot of UR points you should sell now or transfer to you united and sell later at a lower rate

when they close your card they give you some time to liquidate points (30 days or so). I wouldn't preemptively transfer out.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2429 on: March 15, 2013, 02:00:47 PM »
when they close your card they give you some time to liquidate points (30 days or so). I wouldn't preemptively transfer out.
That's just on a closure of a single card (e.g. Sapphire) but on a A/A all accounts are just shut down


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2430 on: March 15, 2013, 02:06:26 PM »
PSA:

Chase is doing another round of card closures, heard from 2 people about accounts just shut down. If you have alot of UR points you should sell now or transfer to you united and sell later at a lower rate
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2431 on: March 15, 2013, 03:02:29 PM »
That's just on a closure of a single card (e.g. Sapphire) but on a A/A all accounts are just shut down
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2432 on: March 15, 2013, 04:26:15 PM »
when they close your card they give you some time to liquidate points (30 days or so). I wouldn't preemptively transfer out.
Not all the time. With some closures your points go "bye bye".
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« Reply #2433 on: March 15, 2013, 04:52:00 PM »
Not all the time. With some closures your points go "bye bye".
Not time for them to even say "bye bye"


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2434 on: March 17, 2013, 01:00:06 AM »
PSA:

Chase is doing another round of card closures, heard from 2 people about accounts just shut down. If you have alot of UR points you should sell now or transfer to you united and sell later at a lower rate
All accounts closure, or singe account closures with warnings?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2435 on: March 19, 2013, 03:05:20 PM »
Hope nobody ever needs this but in case anyone wants the bank account executive department's phone number it's 800.242.7399
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2436 on: March 19, 2013, 03:06:52 PM »
Hope nobody ever needs this but in case anyone wants the bank account executive department's phone number it's 800.242.7399
any update on your accounts?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2437 on: March 19, 2013, 03:30:04 PM »
any update on your accounts?
Just spoke to the executive department to "Michelle Crabtree", she said she doesn't even know the reason of closure but these decisions are usually final...
I inquired regarding my CC's and she said she would research the matter and get back to me within 1-2 business days.

I am going to the bank today IYH to cash out the account. Question: Any reason to close down the account proactively (i.e as in CC's closed by AH as opposed to issuer)?
The only reason I'm thinking not to would be if there's any slight chance that I can convince Crabtree to keep me open...
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« Reply #2438 on: March 19, 2013, 03:36:44 PM »
Just spoke to the executive department to "Michelle Crabtree", she said she doesn't even know the reason of closure but these decisions are usually final...
I inquired regarding my CC's and she said she would research the matter and get back to me within 1-2 business days.

I am going to the bank today IYH to cash out the account. Question: Any reason to close down the account proactively (i.e as in CC's closed by AH as opposed to issuer)?
The only reason I'm thinking not to would be if there's any slight chance that I can convince Crabtree to keep me open...
Don't leave it here. You gotta find out the reason, no reason to give up.
P.S. I hope you shared all the details with us, I feel something is missing here.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2439 on: March 19, 2013, 03:38:24 PM »
Don't leave it here. You gotta find out the reason, no reason to give up.
P.S. I hope you shared all the details with us, I feel something is missing here.
What do you feel is missing?
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