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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1709874 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2480 on: March 20, 2013, 10:10:13 PM »
That was a stupid move. You'll regret it.
It was the safest move at this time.
Why do you say so?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2481 on: March 20, 2013, 10:11:52 PM »

Why do you say so?
My feelings tell me they wouldn't close your cards.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2482 on: March 20, 2013, 10:21:59 PM »
My feelings tell me they wouldn't close your cards.
No biggie, I had no UR, no pending bonuses. I transferred most of my Chase CL into my oldest card which I left open (It's been inactive for awhile so even if they close me down it could be excused as closed down due to inactivity).
If they keep me open I can use all that CL for leverage for future cards.

I even got a 5$ Starbucks GC for the 700 or so UR points that I had left :)

What exactly did I lose here?

Chase can shove it you know where, or should I say "slide" it ;D
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2483 on: March 20, 2013, 10:24:07 PM »
No biggie, I had no UR, no pending bonuses. I transferred most of my Chase CL into my oldest card which I left open (It's been inactive for awhile so even if they close me down it could be excused as closed down due to inactivity).
If they keep me open I can use all that CL for leverage for future cards.

I even got a 5$ Starbucks GC for the 700 or so UR points that I had left :)

What exactly did I lose here?

Chase can shove it you know where, or should I say "slide" it ;D
Great move.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2484 on: March 20, 2013, 10:31:00 PM »
No biggie, I had no UR, no pending bonuses. I transferred most of my Chase CL into my oldest card which I left open (It's been inactive for awhile so even if they close me down it could be excused as closed down due to inactivity).

You didn't mention in first place that you left your oldest card open and you consolidated the lines. If that's the case, you didn't lose that much.

Just a side note: If they close down your oldest card and it sows up on your report as closed by credit grantor, it doesn't matter what you think, inactivity; credit risk bla bla bla, closed by grantor is closed by grantor and not on consumer's request.
But maybe its better to have just one account closed by grantor than six.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2485 on: March 20, 2013, 10:33:37 PM »
You didn't mention in first place that you left your oldest card open and you consolidated the lines. If that's the case, you didn't lose that much.
My original statement is still valid ;)
Just a side note: If they close down your oldest card and it sows up on your report as closed by credit grantor, it doesn't matter what you think, inactivity; credit risk bla bla bla, closed by grantor is closed by grantor and not on consumer's request.
True but other banks can answer themselves when they see that or if I need to discuss it with other banks I can tell them to look how inactive it was and that was the reason for closure.
But maybe its better to have just one account closed by grantor than six.
Bingo!

As a side note, I'm probably not making any further Chase moves until 2014, at least that's my feeling at this time...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2486 on: March 20, 2013, 10:41:58 PM »


As a side note, I'm probably not making any further Chase moves until 2014, at least that's my feeling at this time...
That's what I'm saying to myself every second Sunday, so don't take it serious  :D Its hard to stand by.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2487 on: March 20, 2013, 10:44:03 PM »
That's what I'm saying to myself every second Sunday, so don't take it serious  :D Its hard to stand by.
at least that's my feeling at this time...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2488 on: March 20, 2013, 10:45:22 PM »
:D
  :-* I feel bad for. May hashem fulfill your lose.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2489 on: March 29, 2013, 03:21:30 AM »
Safe thing to do would to close it on your own but they might not let you do that.
You were right about this, they gave me a hard time. Every time I called they kept on saying that the system will automatically close it out in ten days.
During my initial phone call, I managed to put in a request for it to be done manually and was told I would get a callback withing 24-48 hs., the guy called me back with the same "broken record" message.
I tried to record the phone call  where I'm requesting the account to be closed on my end (so I could later use it as proof and dispute the "closed by grantor" mark), but, upon telling them that the call was being recorded, they clearly told me they cannot continue the conversation in such instances. This happened every time I tried, deeming the "proof" illegal (I think).
Nevertheless, upon logging into Chase I now see that my checking account has totally disappeared from the system while the savings is still showing, even though the initial letter was regarding checking AND savings... Maybe that means that my effort accomplished something?..
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2490 on: April 07, 2013, 05:22:33 PM »
I was using my BA card at CVS for VR. I got it as part of a recent 4BM. I had swiped $1,007.90, and the cashier let me do another transaction for $1,007.90, and it declined. I called Chase and they asked me a bunch of questions and verified that i was me, she then removed the block. I swiped and it went through, I asked her to remain on the line to ensure it would ge through. Right after the second purchase she says "please hold on a minute" when she came back she says there is a block on my card, she cant discuss it and someone will contact me soon. She was very abrupt and quick to hang up.

I quickly called back and went through the entire process again, they asked me some random verify my address and provided a totally wrong address asking me to verify. I said that's not m address, she then asked about a recent letter I mailed in asking me to verify the contents. I never mailed anything in...... She then calmed up and said she cant discuss with me anymore, and someone will be in touch.

Am I being A/A'd? Whats going on? Anybody have a similar experience?
Same situation
Now My card was closed they don't want to say why
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2491 on: April 07, 2013, 06:11:55 PM »
Same situation
Now My card was closed they don't want to say why
Here comes the standard questionnaire:
Did you transfer UR points to accounts not yours or your wife's?
Did you do sudden, out of your usual pattern spendings?
Do you love Chase?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2492 on: April 07, 2013, 06:20:21 PM »
Here comes the standard questionnaire:
Did you transfer UR points to accounts not yours or your wife's?
Did you do sudden, out of your usual pattern spendings?
Do you love Chase?
No and last card applied for was over a yr ago.
Tried for my FIRST time with chase to purchase a VR on my card for $900.
They said they cant tell me why it was closed but someone will call me 24-48 hrs :(


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2493 on: April 07, 2013, 06:48:18 PM »
No and last card applied for was over a yr ago.
Tried for my FIRST time with chase to purchase a VR on my card for $900.
They said they cant tell me why it was closed but someone will call me 24-48 hrs :(
So wait for the call and please post what the caller said, don't do what the other poster did  ;)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2494 on: April 07, 2013, 06:57:10 PM »
This thread has become too active r"l.

Anyway, is it worth to transfer my UR to United and take the hit of being less worth and then just sell the United points to avoid risk? Or is anywhere else a better place to transfer if I should only transfer to my name?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2495 on: April 07, 2013, 07:01:54 PM »
This thread has become too active r"l.

Anyway, is it worth to transfer my UR to United and take the hit of being less worth and then just sell the United points to avoid risk? Or is anywhere else a better place to transfer if I should only transfer to my name?

IMO, yes.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2497 on: April 07, 2013, 07:04:16 PM »
This thread has become too active r"l.

Anyway, is it worth to transfer my UR to United and take the hit of being less worth and then just sell the United points to avoid risk? Or is anywhere else a better place to transfer if I should only transfer to my name?
What risk? Of the buyer transferring to another UR account without your permission?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2498 on: April 07, 2013, 07:04:31 PM »
It's not about the quantity of your posts.  It's about the quality.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2499 on: April 07, 2013, 07:09:56 PM »
What risk? Of the buyer transferring to another UR account without your permission?

Transferring to United under another name. Is that an issue? I'm new to this. Is the only issue transferring to other UR accounts?