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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1710456 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2660 on: May 19, 2013, 10:47:34 AM »
I just had all of my 3 cards closed by chase, 1 freedom, 1 ink plus, and my wife's sapphire. They claimed I was a credit risk carrying to decent balances on all and opening some amex cards recently.

1st, can they lump my wife in with me? I though since we are separate SSN it shouldn't be that way, do I have any grounds of appeal thru that?
2nd, what is the best way to try to appeal it, I really need the ink card, the others i could live without. I explained to them why i need the cards for a side business and they confirmed the charges on the cards make sense for that, but wont budge. I called 3 times and recently sent a SM, any ideas?
Were you transferring UR points to other people's airline accounts or to other people's Chase UR accounts?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2661 on: May 19, 2013, 10:47:59 AM »
I just had all of my 3 cards closed by chase, 1 freedom, 1 ink plus, and my wife's sapphire. They claimed I was a credit risk carrying to decent balances on all and opening some amex cards recently. I have been a credit card cust for 5 plus years and a banking customer for 3. I have never paid anything late.

1st, can they lump my wife in with me? I though since we are separate SSN it shouldn't be that way, do I have any grounds of appeal thru that?
2nd, what is the best way to try to appeal it, I really need the ink card, the others i could live without. I explained to them why i need the cards for a side business and they confirmed the charges on the cards make sense for that, but wont budge. I called 3 times and recently sent a SM, any ideas?

They closed your cards because you had a high balance on each one ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2662 on: May 19, 2013, 11:24:33 AM »
Were you transferring UR points to other people's airline accounts or to other people's Chase UR accounts?
only really to other people's airlines, but not once was that brought up in my conversations with them

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2663 on: May 19, 2013, 11:27:02 AM »
They closed your cards because you had a high balance on each one ?
they said that all my cards carried to high of a balance for them to feel comfortable with

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2664 on: May 19, 2013, 11:39:26 AM »
Would putting a $2600 rent payment on sapphire be a bad idea?  It's expensive but I want to knock down the min threshold.  Already done some normal spending, along with one reload. Thanks

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2665 on: May 19, 2013, 11:44:17 AM »
they said that all my cards carried to high of a balance for them to feel comfortable with
Did you offer to pay it down?
Why are you running high balances?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2666 on: May 19, 2013, 11:49:59 AM »
Did you offer to pay it down?
Why are you running high balances?
I don't carry them I only have balances before the statement is generated, then I pay in full. I have already paid they just were saying in general. They made it seem it was more of an issue that I had to much credit allotted from Amex I don't know how they even knew it. What also bothered me is why did me and my wife get lumped together?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2667 on: May 19, 2013, 11:52:04 AM »
Would putting a $2600 rent payment on sapphire be a bad idea?  It's expensive but I want to knock down the min threshold.  Already done some normal spending, along with one reload. Thanks
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2668 on: May 19, 2013, 12:16:22 PM »
I don't carry them I only have balances before the statement is generated, then I pay in full.
That's just as bad as carrying balances.
And is why I always advise to pay off 99% of your balance before the statement closes.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2669 on: May 19, 2013, 12:50:51 PM »
That's just as bad as carrying balances.
And is why I always advise to pay off 99% of your balance before the statement closes.
Yeah, to late now, sorry bit of a newbie to the details. Is there anything I can offer now to possiblly get it reopened, and/or what is the chance to get re-approved for a new one, they told me I am open to trying but obviouslly cant promise anything. Do you think I would have a better shot at getting approved at a freedom card?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2670 on: May 19, 2013, 07:19:05 PM »
I don't carry them I only have balances before the statement is generated, then I pay in full. I have already paid they just were saying in general. They made it seem it was more of an issue that I had to much credit allotted from Amex I don't know how they even knew it. What also bothered me is why did me and my wife get lumped together?
It's on your credit report...
IME (from people i personally dealt with), this is one of the main triggers of an A/A, namely, too much overall available credit in comparison to your reported income.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2671 on: May 19, 2013, 08:09:25 PM »
It's on your credit report...
IME (from people i personally dealt with), this is one of the main triggers of an A/A, namely, too much overall available credit in comparison to your reported income.
I told you so ;D

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2673 on: May 19, 2013, 10:54:20 PM »
That's just as bad as carrying balances.

Which is, of course, ridiculous and nonsensical.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2674 on: May 19, 2013, 10:56:46 PM »
IME (from people i personally dealt with), this is one of the main triggers of an A/A, namely, too much overall available credit in comparison to your reported income.
All the members I deal with this has never been a trigger. It is not that simple.  ;)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2675 on: May 19, 2013, 11:01:35 PM »
All the members I deal with this has never been a trigger. It is not that simple.  ;)
I know more than one person who was told clearly that this was the reason for his shutdown. That's not to negate that there are many other triggers.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2676 on: May 19, 2013, 11:06:43 PM »
I know more than one person who was told clearly that this was the reason for his shutdown.
...but is that the real reason. There is a reason why many have violated every so called trigger and have not received AA/FR.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2677 on: May 19, 2013, 11:24:20 PM »
...but is that the real reason. There is a reason why many have violated every so called trigger and have not received AA/FR.
So what are you postulating?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2678 on: May 20, 2013, 01:07:28 AM »
Absolutely nothing. He just likes to be difficult  ;)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2679 on: May 20, 2013, 01:21:19 AM »
So what are you postulating?
that he gets treated like royalty ;D