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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1702267 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2800 on: June 11, 2013, 04:21:44 PM »
ROFL

after u finish laughing -- let me enjoy too -- please translate for those who do not understand -- i use google translate  almost every day  for greek -- not great but 99% of time it works well enough or can fig out -- not this time!! it is greek to me

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2801 on: June 11, 2013, 04:50:42 PM »
after u finish laughing -- let me enjoy too -- please translate for those who do not understand -- i use google translate  almost every day  for greek -- not great but 99% of time it works well enough or can fig out -- not this time!! it is greek to me
That's because most Hebrew quotes you see here are written in archaic/scholarly Hebrew, not the modern brand.   

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2802 on: June 11, 2013, 04:56:52 PM »
after u finish laughing -- let me enjoy too -- please translate for those who do not understand -- i use google translate  almost every day  for greek -- not great but 99% of time it works well enough or can fig out -- not this time!! it is greek to me
I would but it just doesn't translate well without background info, etc. By which point it's no longer funny.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2803 on: June 11, 2013, 05:10:21 PM »
I would but it just doesn't translate well without background info, etc. By which point it's no longer funny.

I understand -- and glad , u all got a good laugh out of it-- laughing is the best medicine

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2804 on: June 11, 2013, 11:52:39 PM »
I agree --I have 11 cards now with chase-- have had no less than 9 in past few years , have done 2 or 3 chase cards every 3 months , never denied   a card from them --did need to cancel cards to get the new cards--- have been with Chase 25 years or more. I keep high deposit with them -- sometimes I need to remind them of that ,FYI   they can see your bank accounts as I have tested them , they were able to tell me how much had on deposit  -- but for the first time ever Case said ---you have RECEIVED too many cards in last 12 months ( still got the two cards I applied for ), in past  they never brought up # OF CARDS IN TOTAL LAST 12 MONTHS  , they do say to me --- , you have max # cards allowed by us

I do feel if doing this with long term in mind things are stricter in general , if you are a 120 day wonder and go for 8-10-12  cards at a clip and are young with no "real" income -- u are not long for the appo game

 

I really don't see how this equates to proof for meshugner's theory.  The fact is that I, and many others, do not have that kind of strong relationship with Chase, and have still not been A/A'd.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2805 on: June 12, 2013, 01:04:20 AM »
I really don't see how this equates to proof for meshugner's theory.  The fact is that I, and many others, do not have that kind of strong relationship with Chase, and have still not been A/A'd.

Please when you comment on a post 6 days back -- copy post , who wants to search 6days back -thanks

meshugner theory:

"With a solid and long credit history, high income and good relationship (high deposit accounts), several cards are not an A/A trigger."[/i]

ok with me if do not understand --i think my profile( "I have 11 cards now with chase, with Chase 25 years or more, I keep high deposit with them")

also i guess you think --short credit history ,low income , bad relationship , low deposit account several c.c-- is  less chance for AA -- :o

"The fact is that I, and many others, do not have that kind of strong relationship with Chase, and have still not been A/A'd"--- maybe ur more carefuller , more lucky , smarter or all 3 -- hope it continues for you forever  :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2806 on: June 12, 2013, 05:23:49 PM »
My point was simply that the fact that good costumers do not get AA'd, does not prove that bad costumers will get AA'd.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2807 on: June 12, 2013, 05:56:58 PM »
My point was simply that the fact that good costumers do not get AA'd, does not prove that bad costumers will get AA'd.
...but good customers do get it AA.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2808 on: June 12, 2013, 07:24:56 PM »
...but good customers do get   it AA'd.
Lol, send me to the Hall...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2809 on: June 12, 2013, 07:31:48 PM »
Lol, send me to the Hall...
For missing one punctuation mark?  :(
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2810 on: June 12, 2013, 07:33:58 PM »
You missed more than a punctuation mark. In any event, I was referring to myself. Or, if you want, we can both go there together...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2811 on: June 12, 2013, 07:43:30 PM »
You missed more than a punctuation mark. In any event, I was referring to myself. Or, if you want, we can both go there together...
I think we will have to try a little harder. They just don't let anyone in.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2812 on: June 12, 2013, 08:37:59 PM »
Google translate --- "God said to me at the money I came to Israel immediately gold and said I'm boilers me "------ now please translate to "English"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2813 on: June 13, 2013, 01:06:26 AM »
I think we will have to try a little harder. They just don't let anyone in.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2814 on: June 14, 2013, 12:03:36 AM »
Are there any reports of A/A for transferring UR to someone else's mileage (not UR) account?

Booked some tickets for a family member awhile back because they were short points at the time.  Now that they have them, the easiest way to pay me back would be to transfer into my mileage account (no immediate need), but I don't want to subject them to possible A/A.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2815 on: June 14, 2013, 12:18:21 AM »
Yes, My brother had an A/A taken against him for sending 400K at one time to a friends account
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2816 on: June 14, 2013, 12:25:19 AM »
Yes, My brother had an A/A taken against him for sending 400K at one time to a friends account
Freinds UR or UA account?

Also, how long ago was this.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2817 on: June 14, 2013, 12:30:04 AM »
Not sure.

Was about 2-3 years ago. Chase had issue with the amount of points transferred.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2818 on: June 14, 2013, 01:40:22 AM »
I got an A/A taken against me recently and had been SM with Chase about transferring points to another account, which they kept refusing. After my last SM I failed to receive a reply. Well today I got my reply in the mail.

Nothing like getting the middle finger from Chase :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2819 on: June 14, 2013, 01:47:28 AM »
I got an A/A taken against me recently and had been SM with Chase about transferring points to another account, which they kept refusing. After my last SM I failed to receive a reply. Well today I got my reply in the mail.

Nothing like getting the middle finger from Chase :)
Care to explain?
What were the sm's about?  Who initiated the conversation?  What were they refusing?  It was for a transfer to another UR account?