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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700124 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2880 on: July 18, 2013, 12:21:20 AM »
Is this an A/A?
You need to call to find out.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2881 on: July 18, 2013, 12:32:45 AM »
Sounds like a fraud alert to me

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2882 on: July 18, 2013, 01:10:01 AM »
Sounds like a fraud alert to me
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2883 on: July 23, 2013, 10:39:54 AM »
Anymore reports of people having their CSPs closed for UR transfers?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2884 on: July 23, 2013, 11:18:36 AM »
Anymore reports of people having their CSPs closed for UR transfers?

I would refrain from UR>UR even if there are no current reports. People have gotten shut down a while after the transfers.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2885 on: July 23, 2013, 04:21:27 PM »
I would refrain from UR>UR even if there are no current reports. People have gotten shut down a while after the transfers.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2886 on: July 23, 2013, 11:18:13 PM »
I would refrain from UR>UR even if there are no current reports. People have gotten shut down a while after the transfers.

I have a single large incoming UR>UR transfer from someone not related to me 6 months ago on my CSP. Do you recommend I close it preemptively?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2887 on: July 24, 2013, 12:10:44 AM »
I have a single large incoming UR>UR transfer from someone not related to me 6 months ago on my CSP. Do you recommend I close it preemptively?

I have extensive experience with large UR to UR transfers, and never BH had an issue. However, keep in mind I do INK to INK transfers only, which adheres to their T&C saying you're allowed to transfer to anybody in your business. How can they know what I have with that other person, maybe I hired him to fly to HK as a consultant. I have done literally hundreds of transfers with different last names.

Now SP to INK or vice versa, I wouldn't recommend doing. I have a friend who they shut down his SP account (his bolds were untouched) because of UR transfers.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2888 on: July 24, 2013, 12:12:42 AM »
People have been shut down for Ink to Ink.
Consider yourself lucky.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2889 on: July 24, 2013, 12:16:49 AM »
The Ink terms state that it must be within the same business or to your spouse.
You'll have no leg to stand on if the business name isn't exactly the same.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2890 on: July 24, 2013, 01:05:47 AM »
So I guess it's a crap shoot then on UR > UR and I should hope for the best about not getting shut down?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2891 on: July 30, 2013, 02:06:17 PM »
But i'm safe transferring SP to ink if it the same name ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2892 on: July 30, 2013, 02:07:22 PM »
But i'm safe transferring SP to ink if it the same name ?
Same person? Yes, that is what the transfer is meant for.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2893 on: July 30, 2013, 03:45:10 PM »
I'm planning on transferring UR  from my father's freedom to my UR sapphire.. I'm assuming its not an issue because of the same last name. I've already transfered from my wife's account to mine;won't that look a little suspicious?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2894 on: July 30, 2013, 03:56:10 PM »
I'm planning on transferring UR  from my father's freedom to my UR sapphire.. I'm assuming its not an issue because of the same last name. I've already transfered from my wife's account to mine;won't that look a little suspicious?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2895 on: August 02, 2013, 02:40:41 PM »
Just information: Chase closed my brother in laws bus's business checking accounts (accounts that had laying over night millions of dollars!!) after he got a little stuck with some legal issues. They didn't send any explanation .... Just a letter that all the accounts were closed.
The next day my brother in law got the same latter for his personal accounts ....
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2896 on: August 02, 2013, 02:57:35 PM »
Just information: Chase closed my brother in laws bus's business checking accounts (accounts that had laying over night millions of dollars!!) after he got a little stuck with some legal issues. They didn't send any explanation .... Just a letter that all the accounts were closed.
The next day my brother in law got the same latter for his personal accounts ....
I hate this companies that are your FRIEND until your getting stuck,..... With the gov. They are running away and leave you.....
They are out to make money, not be your friend. It's your own fault of you have any other illusions
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2897 on: August 02, 2013, 02:58:57 PM »
Just information: Chase closed my brother in laws bus's business checking accounts (accounts that had laying over night millions of dollars!!) after he got a little stuck with some legal issues. They didn't send any explanation .... Just a letter that all the accounts were closed.
The next day my brother in law got the same latter for his personal accounts ....
I hate this companies that are your FRIEND until your getting stuck,..... With the gov. They are running away and leave you.....

With millions in the accounts:
1. Doesn't the business owner have relationships with some Chase bankers who could shed some light on this?
2. I'm sure there are lots of banks that would be happy to take his business (granted, there's only one Chase).

They are out to make money, not be your friend. It's your own fault of you have any other illusions

Still, some of these closures don't seem to make sense.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2898 on: August 02, 2013, 03:26:17 PM »
With millions in the accounts:
1. Doesn't the business owner have relationships with some Chase bankers who could shed some light on this?
2. I'm sure there are lots of banks that would be happy to take his business (granted, there's only one Chase).

Not involved in his biz. Just copy pasted what was in the conversation yesterday by a simchah......
Yeh they are all going to TD now
Though..... Their CC was not shut down..
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #2899 on: August 02, 2013, 03:55:45 PM »
They are out to make money, not be your friend. It's your own fault of you have any other illusions
Not sure about you.... but when im calling Chase customer service they are always sssoooooooo thankful And busy with their appreciation for being a Chase customer...... where is all the appreciation now?????? yup this is this עולם השקר were living this days.....
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