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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1708233 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3400 on: October 12, 2013, 11:33:48 PM »

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3401 on: October 13, 2013, 02:03:25 AM »
A few friends told me they were shut down, claim too much credit

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3402 on: October 13, 2013, 09:20:51 AM »
A few friends told me they were shut down, claim too much credit
And then reopened?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3403 on: October 13, 2013, 09:21:49 AM »
And then reopened?

They were just closed

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3404 on: October 13, 2013, 05:31:50 PM »
I did it numerous times, and every time they called me to ask if I needed more credit, never BH an issue, but this was about a year ago.
you were AA'd, all your accounts were closed, and after speaking to them they were reopened?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3405 on: October 13, 2013, 06:31:01 PM »
you were AA'd, all your accounts were closed, and after speaking to them they were reopened?
No, he wasn't AA'd.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3406 on: October 13, 2013, 11:09:20 PM »
Kol Mevaser has an interview about the wave of A/As.
Thinks that it has to do with Orthodox Jewish areas.
If they go by zip code of the unprofitable areas, it can make sense.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3407 on: October 13, 2013, 11:31:02 PM »
I agree that the A/A matzev is bad, however what he says on KM is NOT true at all, in othet words he claims that DDF can just close all the Chase CC threads because Chase is closing everyone....... he says not even one persons cards will stay open.. He is really nuts...
One thing that he says makes a little sense, he claims they started to close the Jewish oilem... this may sound equal why on FT the idea of AA is almost not mentioned. CMIIW.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3408 on: October 13, 2013, 11:40:45 PM »
Lol.
There's plenty of A/A posts on FT.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3409 on: October 13, 2013, 11:51:26 PM »
Link?
Do they have any more chidushim then we have?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3410 on: October 13, 2013, 11:54:31 PM »
Kol Mevaser has an interview about the wave of A/As.
Thinks that it has to do with Orthodox Jewish areas.
If they go by zip code of the unprofitable areas, it can make sense.
how do you get to the interview - which numbers do you have to press?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3411 on: October 13, 2013, 11:55:24 PM »
how do you get to the interview - which numbers do you have to press?
1-1-4.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3412 on: October 14, 2013, 12:10:49 AM »
The guy on kol mevaser makes it sound like everyone's getting shut. It's not nearly as bad as he thinks.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3413 on: October 14, 2013, 12:21:31 AM »
Its not that good.

I'm wondering why Chase so nicely renovated the 2 branches in Boro Park when it looks like in 1 months they can close both

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3414 on: October 14, 2013, 01:48:30 AM »
Maybe they're targeting the chaseedish community
Or maybe just people who are friends with ilherman
;)

They're indeed. I've heard of multiple people from Brooklyn, Monsey and Monroe who were shut in the past 7-10 days.

Something is utterly wrong here.. They probably realized that a majority of their UR points are earned within those neighborhoods so they decided to act on it.. Their problem though is, it's starting to become a hot topic in the Hassidic communities and they're at risk of potentially losing thousands of loyal and "profitable" clients. People (among them thousands of business owners - large and small)  are starting to feel insecure with chase nowadays

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3415 on: October 14, 2013, 04:12:00 AM »
They probably realized that a majority of their UR points are earned within those neighborhoods so they decided to act on it.
I kinda doubt that...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3417 on: October 14, 2013, 05:54:01 AM »
Lol.
There's plenty of A/A posts on FT.
...but they are all Jews that get the AA.  ;)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3418 on: October 14, 2013, 07:00:16 AM »
If that vote on this topic means anything then its not at all that bleak as kol mevaser is saying, if Close to 80% of DDF didnt get shutdown yet then its a little early to panic

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3419 on: October 14, 2013, 07:31:19 AM »
So what do u guys say? i got 500K there, should i transfer them out to united?