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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700488 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3440 on: October 14, 2013, 11:51:07 AM »
Hw says whoever is not transfering out his UR, then his UR are a bechineh of HAMATZIL MEZTOY SHEL YUM, that you may take it for your self........ Should I get access to Dans account which he claims haves some 1,000,000 + UR...
And they're still sitting there.
Just drives you crazy doesn't it :)
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3441 on: October 14, 2013, 12:06:23 PM »
I was shut down! ALL of my accounts- business and personal. What do I do now? how does an appeal work? HUCA didn't work for me....

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3442 on: October 14, 2013, 12:09:50 PM »
I was shut down! ALL of my accounts- business and personal. What do I do now? how does an appeal work? HUCA didn't work for me....
Did you have checking accounts?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3443 on: October 14, 2013, 12:26:38 PM »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3444 on: October 14, 2013, 12:38:30 PM »
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/35174

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Paying for the mistakes of others at your address.

Typically when a bank does a financial review or decides to close accounts they will go after all accounts located at the same address.

Same goes with any account that was logged in from the same PC / IP address,
Even when there's no other apparent connection between the 2 accounts.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3445 on: October 14, 2013, 12:41:41 PM »
Same goes with any account that was logged in from the same PC / IP address,
Even when there's no other apparent connection between the 2 accounts.
says who?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3446 on: October 14, 2013, 12:42:15 PM »
My CL are roughly 50% of my income shold i call case to reduce ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3447 on: October 14, 2013, 12:46:25 PM »
Same here
Yes. There is no reason to panic but most people usually know where they wonna transfer, so why not transfer now..... and be on the safe side... After all we hear every day or so another member here is shut down.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3448 on: October 14, 2013, 12:46:53 PM »
My CL are roughly 50% of my income shold i call case to reduce ?

My CL is 110% of my income. No worries at all. Just don't be a trouble maker.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3449 on: October 14, 2013, 12:51:33 PM »
says who?

First hand experience (unfortunately)

And NO! there wasn't "any" other trigger besides that.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3450 on: October 14, 2013, 12:55:32 PM »
so that means that any one that "sold" miles to a broker, and that broker also logged into an account that eventually got closed, they also have to be worried?!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3451 on: October 14, 2013, 12:58:21 PM »
sillypainter and all others who are ranting and raving that there is nothing what to worry as long your not a truble maker, please stop with this statements. yes, apparently VR BB equals trouble maker in Chase's dictionary. were all lucky that we weren't randomly picked like some other members here. again I agree that KM goes way to far.... But to say that nothing changed in the past few weeks is unfortunately not true.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3452 on: October 14, 2013, 01:11:07 PM »
So what do we do? Transfer or not?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3453 on: October 14, 2013, 01:17:06 PM »
So what do we do? Transfer or not?

IMHO you should transfer, just to be on the safe side...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3454 on: October 14, 2013, 01:40:18 PM »
I've never seen so many Chicken Little's with their The Sky is falling in my life.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3455 on: October 14, 2013, 01:43:25 PM »
I've never seen so many Chicken Little's with their The Sky is falling in my life.
It does get a little scary if you're playing shtik and have a lot of UR points.


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3456 on: October 14, 2013, 01:48:55 PM »
This hysteria about Chase targeting Orthodox Jews is ridiculous.
What's causing this mass hysteria?
This is crazy!!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3457 on: October 14, 2013, 01:49:08 PM »
I've never seen so many Chicken Little's with their The Sky is falling in my life.

I'm not sure this is Chicken Little.

Fact is, it does seem Chase is picking up steam, at least as compared to the last several months of relative quiet.

A person purchasing Chase GCs and thousands in CVS purchases should well be informed that there is a not insignificant change he may lose everything in an A/A.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3458 on: October 14, 2013, 02:03:35 PM »
Fair enough AJK

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3459 on: October 14, 2013, 02:08:00 PM »
Transfer all points out. Close all Chase accounts. Open IP/IB and spend 50k before first statement closes. Transfer all points the day they post and close accounts. Rinse and repeat.
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