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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1706303 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3500 on: October 14, 2013, 04:53:54 PM »
Great job! they have to start getting millions of people tweeting to them like this.... They have to start to realize that people are stopping to bank with them and they should stop this ridiculous shut downs.
Maybe should we organize a protest against the 2 Chase banks in BP.... if such think would ever happen, meaning hundreds of people protesting and saying that we all will stop banking with Chase maybe this would send a message to the higher ups in Chase, and they would at least sit down to the table having to explain every shut down not just saying transactions inconsistent with expected bla bla bla...
bec i want to. and u get me going!

@dan obviously its ridiculous. though why all of a sudden is this happening? ppl have been doing points for yrs, but there are far more stories happening in the past month than i heard in more than a yr before that


What is so funny. Now I have something to work for.  :P
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3501 on: October 14, 2013, 04:54:18 PM »
nu uh! okay... there anti semites... i knew it!

ilerman go for it dont listen to these naysayers, pls continue to spew fourth your lack of knowledge. of course there coming after them jews!
I indeed agree (and agreed all the time) that its non sense to say that they target specific communities.
However my lack knowledge still tells me that yes Chase started shutting down people doing standard DDF transactions, (don't come screaming that DDF is still open, I never said like the guy on KM that they are closing everyone BUT the unlucky ones) if you disagree you're not following this thread the past weeks, I don't think that the members here are hiding the truth and just lying by saying that they have no idea why they got shot down period.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3502 on: October 14, 2013, 05:01:33 PM »
How do I hear the interview on KM ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3503 on: October 14, 2013, 05:05:10 PM »
1212-444-1100 After the add you should press 1-1-4.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3504 on: October 14, 2013, 05:06:14 PM »
I get a interview about a shul in perth amboy ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3505 on: October 14, 2013, 05:09:59 PM »
I get a interview about a shul in perth amboy ?
They probably have a new interview just press # (after pressing 1-1-4) to listen to previous interviews.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3506 on: October 14, 2013, 05:12:41 PM »
Honorary jew of the year ;)

Best quote to date... :P

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3507 on: October 14, 2013, 05:12:55 PM »
1212-444-1100 After the add you should press 1-1-4.
there are 2 new interviews since then
press # to get to the next interview then press 6 to skip the ad press # again then 6 and then you should herehear it

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3508 on: October 14, 2013, 05:16:11 PM »
there are 2 new interviews since then
press # to get to the next interview then press 6 to skip the ad press # again then 6 and then you should herehear it
got it thanks

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3509 on: October 14, 2013, 05:16:50 PM »
there r 2 new interviews since then
press # to get to the next interview then press 6 to skip the ad press # again then 6 and then you should here it
AFAIK 6 does not come in here just # to go back 1 interview and # again for the second interview then maybe 6 if he put on a ad before the interview, but the first 6 doesn't matter.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3510 on: October 14, 2013, 05:23:51 PM »
On a side note, it is nice and heartwarming to know that so many DDF'rs understand our Mamma Lushon Yiddish...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3511 on: October 14, 2013, 05:24:22 PM »
AFAIK 6 does not come in here just # to go back 1 interview and # again for the second interview then maybe 6 if he put on a ad before the interview, but the first 6 doesn't matter.
If you like hearing ads it doesn't matter if you want to skip the ad it does matter  ;) Try it
after the first ad dial sloooooowly 1 1 4 # 6 # 6

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3512 on: October 14, 2013, 05:26:32 PM »
Common sense dictates they are following some  pattern,  they aren't just randomly picking names out of a hat box.  It seems they are targeting specific zip codes.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3513 on: October 14, 2013, 05:27:27 PM »
Common sense dictates they are following some  pattern,  they aren't just randomly picking names out of a hat box.  It seems they are targeting specific zip codes.
pattern of abuse perhaps?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3514 on: October 14, 2013, 05:28:07 PM »
Common sense dictates they are following some  pattern,  they aren't just randomly picking names out of a hat box.  It seems they are targeting specific zip codes.

"Jewish" zip codes still doesn't mean they are targeting Jews.

pattern of abuse perhaps?

Yup, that's what I'm thinking.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3515 on: October 14, 2013, 05:32:32 PM »
COPY/PASTE


The only effective way to stop this highly unethical (and possibly illegal) behavior by chase is as follows:

Every single orthodox jewish chase account holder (personal or business) within the Tri-state area and specifically those with saving accounts should contact their local banker and tell them your'e considering closing your accounts with them and take your business elsewhere "because" of the insecure feeling we all have.

This has to stop and they certainly won't stop until they feel the heat of potentially loosing hundreds of thousands of loyal clients and "billions" of dollars in revenue (between all the orthodox jewish neighborhoods).

Your local banker or bank manager may be more of a low level associate within the corp but they'll surely translate the message to their superiors which is exactly what needs to happen.

They will not take the orthodox jewish business with its billions of dollars for granted..

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3516 on: October 14, 2013, 05:33:55 PM »
Chase just took a 10 billion write down for mortgage abuse and they didn't even blink.

I doubt they care.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3517 on: October 14, 2013, 05:43:44 PM »
Chase just took a 10 billion write down for mortgage abuse and they didn't even blink.

I doubt they care.

Excuse my French but are you nuts???

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3518 on: October 14, 2013, 05:44:01 PM »
Where was that thread about the anti jewish Amex scheduling SBS on a Saturday? It may be time for a merge

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Chase A/A advice and strategies
« Reply #3519 on: October 14, 2013, 05:44:21 PM »
Let's keep this thread for A/A reports, and advice from those who were A/A'd in the past and if and/or how they recovered.

Triggers, discussions and rumors, please leave for the other thread.


To begin, I was A/A'd a few days ago, and the reasons given (over the phone) were:
  • Overall credit available (she wasn't able to explain exactly what that meant)
  • Too many recent accounts opened
  • Too many inquiries

BTW, as my Experian was frozen, the above was base on my Equifax report, during a "routine monthly check"

I spent a half hour on the phone, and was met with a brick wall. She kept on saying that there is nothing to do, no option to appeal, they (executive office) are the highest option etc.

Anyone went through a A/A with similar reasons and with any luck?