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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1706870 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3520 on: October 14, 2013, 05:44:46 PM »
Excuse my French but are you nuts???

They don't care. Jamie Dimon doesn't care.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3521 on: October 14, 2013, 05:44:54 PM »
Where was that thread about the anti jewish Amex scheduling SBS on a Saturday? It may be time for a merge
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3522 on: October 14, 2013, 05:54:17 PM »
They don't care. Jamie Dimon doesn't care.

Totally disagree... Last thing JPMorgan Chase and J. Dimom need now is NYS Attorney General Schneiderman on their/his back.. I can smell this happening...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3523 on: October 14, 2013, 06:04:10 PM »
COPY/PASTE


loosing hundreds of thousands of loyal clients and "billions" of dollars in revenue.


"billions" of dollars in deposits (if there's so much in the TRI-STATE area) is still not "billions" of dollars in "revenue"
Jews ≠ Zionists
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3524 on: October 14, 2013, 06:09:09 PM »
"billions" of dollars in deposits (if there's so much in the TRI-STATE area) is still not "billions" of dollars in "revenue"

Correct me if I'm wrong but Revenue means total income/receipts etc and not profit... 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3525 on: October 14, 2013, 06:09:25 PM »
It would lower their ability to lend money significantly. Don't banks have to have somewhere around 5 % of the money they lend. So if you withdraw a billion dollars,  the bank lost $20 billion in lending power. That's a lot of lost revenue

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3526 on: October 14, 2013, 06:21:02 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but Revenue means total income/receipts etc and not profit... 
That has nothing to do with deposits.

And this is worse than FTG threatening to sue UA for age discrimination for cancelling his 4 mile island ticket.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3527 on: October 14, 2013, 06:23:06 PM »
If someone plans to organize a twitter bombardment, my two cents:
1) Use a unified hashtag like #GoodByeChase
2) Tweet @Chase AND @AGSchneiderman

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3528 on: October 14, 2013, 06:28:45 PM »
Pathetic. This is not a Jewish issue. STOP trying to make it into one it makes you look like a fool.

Plenty of FT/FW people have been A/A'ed as well as our own CV (twice by his own admission and now gunning for round 3).  It's a abuse trigger issue when the computer decides you are high-risk.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3529 on: October 14, 2013, 06:32:09 PM »
Huh?
How on earth did I imply that this is a Jewish issue?
I agree 100% with you that is it pathetic.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3530 on: October 14, 2013, 06:35:39 PM »
Sorry if I jumped to a conclusion.

If you were targeted and feel wronged, people on this thread have mentioned the correct avenues to pursue.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3531 on: October 14, 2013, 06:39:48 PM »
I didn't say anything about being targeted either.
If someone was shut down, (for what he feels was no reason) why cant they tweet Chase/The AG?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3532 on: October 14, 2013, 06:40:33 PM »
I didn't say anything about being targeted either.
If someone was shut down, (for what he feels was no reason) why cant they tweet Chase/The AG?
Because they would be better off using their time on routes that would accomplish something?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3533 on: October 14, 2013, 06:51:41 PM »
Seems like many others have hit brick walls in traditional routes (calling exec)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3534 on: October 14, 2013, 07:02:37 PM »
@Dan:
The following has no basis:
"-Getting multiple checking account
bonuses.
Some people have reported being shut down
for getting multiple checking bonuses."
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3535 on: October 14, 2013, 07:10:03 PM »
All of it is based on anecdotal evidence. I'm just summarizing a couple threads into a readable post.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3536 on: October 14, 2013, 07:12:12 PM »
@Dan:
The following has no basis:
"-Getting multiple checking account
bonuses.
Some people have reported being shut down
for getting multiple checking bonuses."


@meshugener

Just because YOU haven't been nailed, doesn't mean it isn't a trigger.

One can play in traffic and not get hit.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3537 on: October 14, 2013, 07:16:59 PM »
Plenty of FT/FW people have been A/A'ed as well as our own CV (twice by his own admission and now gunning for round 3).  It's a abuse trigger issue when the computer decides you are high-risk.
There are groups at FWF where I will guess 70-80% of the group have received AA. In one word "abuse".
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3538 on: October 14, 2013, 07:24:45 PM »
One can play in traffic and not get hit.
...or get hit the first time you go in traffic. The great thing about this game is you don't get killed. Just pick yourself up and go play in traffic again.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3539 on: October 14, 2013, 07:25:57 PM »
I can only chuckle.
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