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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1699064 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3540 on: October 14, 2013, 07:32:17 PM »
Pathetic. This is not a Jewish issue. STOP trying to make it into one it makes you look like a fool.

Plenty of FT/FW people have been A/A'ed as well as our own CV (twice by his own admission and now gunning for round 3).  It's a abuse trigger issue when the computer decides you are high-risk.
When people here wrote targeting jews they probably meant jewish neighborhood, the guy in San Antonio Texas hates the Brooklyn, Lakewood, area but have no idea that Jews live there.... Again nothing about jews its all about jewish TOWNS as Asher0 mentioned before.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3541 on: October 14, 2013, 07:33:35 PM »
When people here wrote targeting jews they probably meant jewish neighborhood
Like this you mean:
https://twitter.com/LkwdNews/status/389873186705117184
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3542 on: October 14, 2013, 07:35:01 PM »
For all you guys claiming its anti semitism or at the very least theyre targeting jewish zip codes, ask around among the frum jews who live in these towns who never heard of dansdeals (if there are any) and tell me how many of them got A/A'd

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3543 on: October 14, 2013, 07:38:40 PM »
Seems like many others have hit brick walls in traditional routes (calling exec)
that's why I wanted to open a thread which would focus on routes, advice and WHAT TO DO etc. but the mods apparently aren't interested in two threads...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3544 on: October 14, 2013, 07:40:55 PM »
That has nothing to do with deposits.

And this is worse than FTG threatening to sue UA for age discrimination for cancelling his 4 mile island ticket.

Right on both aspects. That being said I still believe in raising awareness of the authorities on this one. So discussing this with the bankers and sending tweets as Menacham_m mentioned is not such a bad idea after all

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3545 on: October 14, 2013, 07:42:47 PM »
I firmly agree with this one.

The people blaming this on anti-semitism should be ashamed of themselves.
I mean really, really ashamed.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3546 on: October 14, 2013, 07:47:45 PM »
For all you guys claiming its anti semitism or at the very least theyre targeting jewish zip codes, ask around among the frum jews who live in these towns who never heard of dansdeals (if there are any) and tell me how many of them got A/A'd
OK, I found one but he has no CC's.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3547 on: October 14, 2013, 07:48:30 PM »
Because they would be better off using their time on routes that would accomplish something?
All 8 seconds? What do you have to lose?
I'm sure you could do it while on hold.  ;)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3548 on: October 14, 2013, 07:50:10 PM »
For all you guys claiming its anti semitism or at the very least theyre targeting jewish zip codes, ask around among the frum jews who live in these towns who never heard of dansdeals (if there are any) and tell me how many of them got A/A'd
Correct. The guy on the street that haves no idea abou DDF, FT, churning, etc... and uses a Gap CC for all his purchases will not get shut.... We are talking about people that DO know about Dansdeals and are joying the CC game and wonna know how to play it safe.
So what exactly was your point?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3549 on: October 14, 2013, 07:59:36 PM »
All 8 seconds? What do you have to lose?
I'm sure you could do it while on hold.  ;)
So have fun with it.

Correct. The guy on the street that haves no idea abou DDF, FT, churning, etc... and uses a Gap CC for all his purchases will not get shut.... We are talking about people that DO know about Dansdeals and are joying the CC game and wonna know how to play it safe.
So what exactly was your point?
Sof kol sof, were you A/Aed?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3550 on: October 14, 2013, 08:04:14 PM »
Pretty simple guys and gals. If you're getting nowhere with the Executive Office, and you haven't done anything that would warrant account closure:

1 - AG and CPFB.
2 - Small claims court (there are FT'ers that are taking this route).
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3551 on: October 14, 2013, 08:17:49 PM »
Pretty simple guys and gals. If you're getting nowhere with the Executive Office, and you haven't done anything that would warrant account closure:

1 - AG and CPFB.
2 - Small claims court (there are FT'ers that are taking this route).
IMHO the triggers Dan/others have mentioned 'doing anything wrong' or "warrant account closure". They are merely things to avoid, to stay away from the headache.
So I don't see why the recourse you laid out would exclude them.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3552 on: October 14, 2013, 08:41:08 PM »
For all you guys claiming its anti semitism or at the very least theyre targeting jewish zip codes, ask around among the frum jews who live in these towns who never heard of dansdeals (if there are any) and tell me how many of them got A/A'd
my father has a business checking account for over 20 years never had a cc and got AA
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3553 on: October 14, 2013, 08:42:09 PM »
So have fun with it.
Sof kol sof, were you A/Aed?
Was ready to bet that you will finally ask me this question  :)  Imagine both me and my wife are on with 8+ CC BH, DER BASHEFER ZUL HELFEN VATER.....

In reference why this is my favorite thread.... I don't know.. but the CHUTZPEH of Chase closing accounts with NO given reasonable reason + stealing peoples UR which no other Bank is doing is aggravating me that you have no idea...   >:( >:( >:( >:(  who they think they are?? I would love seeing them going bankruptcy in TD taking over the CC market.. and I'll stop here.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3554 on: October 14, 2013, 08:43:42 PM »
Pretty simple guys and gals. If you're getting nowhere with the Executive Office, and you haven't done anything that would warrant account closure:

1 - AG and CPFB.
2 - Small claims court (there are FT'ers that are taking this route).
anybody with success with small claims court?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3555 on: October 14, 2013, 08:44:48 PM »
my father has a business checking account for over 20 years never had a cc and got AA
That's because he is your father..... it's typically a package deal.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3556 on: October 14, 2013, 08:48:29 PM »
Was ready to bet that you will finally ask me this question  :)  Imagine both me and my wife are on with 8+ CC BH, DER BASHEFER ZUL HELFEN VATER.....
And here I thought they had already identified properly everyone who speaks yiddish :P
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3557 on: October 14, 2013, 08:50:13 PM »
That's because he is your father..... it's typically a package deal.
Kind of like North Korea with their 3 generation policy - you commit a crime 3 generations locked up for life in the gulags.


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3558 on: October 14, 2013, 09:17:36 PM »
Pretty simple guys and gals. If you're getting nowhere with the Executive Office, and you haven't done anything that would warrant account closure:

1 - AG and CPFB.
2 - Small claims court (there are FT'ers that are taking this route).

as someone who was just A/A'd, care to explain?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #3559 on: October 14, 2013, 09:18:48 PM »
AG = Attorney General
CFPB = Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
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