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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1711505 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4140 on: December 30, 2013, 02:26:11 PM »
Who said I'm not concerned?
But I'm also concerned for my airline and hotel accounts as well :P
C'est la vie, that's the name of the game.
What's to be concerned about w/ those accounts assuming you've never sold miles?

Debit card is dead. But your point is still valid.

Correct, meant to write, had.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4141 on: December 30, 2013, 03:10:20 PM »
Lets stop trying to convince Dan to transfer out his points. No on here will change him anyway.

He believes in this and that's it.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4142 on: December 30, 2013, 03:33:33 PM »
So then why aren't you concerned?

I've violated all possible triggers in the books (and even more).
I have no idea why they're still not shutting me down.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4143 on: December 30, 2013, 03:34:08 PM »
He believes in this and that's it.
Is paying my chase cards from BB a risk?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4144 on: December 30, 2013, 03:38:40 PM »
I've violated all possible triggers in the books (and even more).
I have no idea why they're still not shutting me down.
When/if they do, it will not be the baby crying all night.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4145 on: December 30, 2013, 03:39:17 PM »
I've violated all possible triggers in the books (and even more).
I have no idea why they're still not shutting me down.
Same here. I've done the same with Amazon payments >:D
#livingontheedge


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4146 on: December 30, 2013, 04:28:35 PM »
When/if they do, it will not be the baby crying all night.  :)
I'll be happy with what I got out of them.
Thanks, you're the best.  ;)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4147 on: December 30, 2013, 05:06:56 PM »
When/if they do, it will not be the baby crying all night.  :)
:) line of the month!!!
it will still be crying like a baby though

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4148 on: December 30, 2013, 05:13:12 PM »
Same here. I've done the same with Amazon payments >:D
#livingontheedge
Wait your turn.  I was told by AP rep (fwiw) that they've been reviewing AP accounts small blocks at a time. Chances are your time will come too (as mine has :-\).  IIWY I'd cut back until I knew I was in the clear.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4149 on: December 30, 2013, 05:15:44 PM »
74K total, 20 of that was Chase.
there you go... that's what bothers them..
Called them today, they said "your report shows too much new credit and we don't like that" I ask why didn't Chase slash my credit line? she says "we're comfortable with closing the cards..." I asked if I'm done with Chase or if I could apply again at a later date, she said you can apply again and if your report is no longer showing the things we don't like, you can get approved.

Talking to her just got me more upset...
Hope to get over this soon..

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4150 on: December 30, 2013, 05:32:55 PM »
Called them today, they said "your report shows too much new credit and we don't like that" I ask why didn't Chase slash my credit line? she says "we're comfortable with closing the cards..." I asked if I'm done with Chase or if I could apply again at a later date, she said you can apply again and if your report is no longer showing the things we don't like, you can get approved.

Talking to her just got me more upset...
Hope to get over this soon..
what in the world does that mean "we are more comfortable to close cards???:o>:(
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4151 on: December 30, 2013, 06:08:33 PM »
Called them today, they said "your report shows too much new credit and we don't like that" I ask why didn't Chase slash my credit line? she says "we're comfortable with closing the cards..." I asked if I'm done with Chase or if I could apply again at a later date, she said you can apply again and if your report is no longer showing the things we don't like, you can get approved.

Talking to her just got me more upset...
Hope to get over this soon..
Do you have any idea what they didnt like on your report?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4152 on: December 30, 2013, 06:18:44 PM »
Do you have any idea what they didnt like on your report?
Yeah too much new credit even though some of my credit was a few years old, but recently it had gone up too high too fast.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4153 on: December 30, 2013, 06:20:38 PM »
what in the world does that mean "we are more comfortable to close cards???:o>:(
Translation: Take a hike!
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4154 on: December 30, 2013, 06:21:12 PM »
Called them today, they said "your report shows too much new credit and we don't like that" I ask why didn't Chase slash my credit line? she says "we're comfortable with closing the cards..." I asked if I'm done with Chase or if I could apply again at a later date, she said you can apply again and if your report is no longer showing the things we don't like, you can get approved.

Talking to her just got me more upset...
Hope to get over this soon..
What was her name? was it Lisa?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4155 on: December 30, 2013, 06:52:33 PM »
Wait your turn.  I was told by AP rep (fwiw) that they've been reviewing AP accounts small blocks at a time. Chances are your time will come too (as mine has :-\).  IIWY I'd cut back until I knew I was in the clear.
If they'll eventually get around to checking my account and shut me down for what I've already done I may as well milk it for all it's worth.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4156 on: December 30, 2013, 07:08:50 PM »
cant bealive it but i got a letter in the mail today stating that CHASE is closing my checking account in 3 weeks, i really dont use my checking account much and didnt do anything that could trigger a A/A but thats what i got, and now my credit cards which i uselly pay off with my business check (which i know could trigger...) is still working, and when i called the number that was on the letter i got from chase they told me that my credit cards are working, and the reason for closing my account was cuz of the transactions i made and didnt wanna give specific details (i transferred my UR points out of there!
what should i do??? :-[ :'(

1. am i ever gonna b able to open a new checking account?
2. are they gonna close my cc as well just a metter of time?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4157 on: December 30, 2013, 07:18:25 PM »
cant bealive it but i got a letter in the mail today stating that CHASE is closing my checking account in 3 weeks, i really dont use my checking account much and didnt do anything that could trigger a A/A but thats what i got, and now my credit cards which i uselly pay off with my business check (which i know could trigger...) is still working, and when i called the number that was on the letter i got from chase they told me that my credit cards are working, and the reason for closing my account was cuz of the transactions i made and didnt wanna give specific details (i transferred my UR points out of there!
what should i do??? :-[ :'(

1. am i ever gonna b able to open a new checking account?
2. are they gonna close my cc as well just a metter of time?
I got the same letter, question 1, I dunno.
As for 2. They closed my CC accounts within a few days of getting the letter. Luckily I transferred All my points the day I got the letter.
My checking is still open for some reason even though the letter wasnt about them, but my CC's are all closed.
Be quick and smart. Transfer your points out asap.
As for my credit lines, I didnt want to take such a hard hit so I opted to sign up for new cards across different banks. I garnered an additional 70K credit and lost a month later 70K from chase. I received 5 hard pulls, but I didnt set back my credit 3 years of work. Look long term too... If you dont have much credit elsewhere this could seriously damage your Fico's.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4158 on: December 30, 2013, 07:23:43 PM »
is it better for my credit to close my chase credit cards on my own, b4 they do it???

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4159 on: December 30, 2013, 07:26:30 PM »
cant bealive it but i got a letter in the mail today stating that CHASE is closing my checking account in 3 weeks, i really dont use my checking account much and didnt do anything that could trigger a A/A but thats what i got, and now my credit cards which i uselly pay off with my business check (which i know could trigger...) is still working, and when i called the number that was on the letter i got from chase they told me that my credit cards are working, and the reason for closing my account was cuz of the transactions i made and didnt wanna give specific details (i transferred my UR points out of there!
what should i do??? :-[ :'(

1. am i ever gonna b able to open a new checking account?
2. are they gonna close my cc as well just a metter of time?
Dan claims that people had success getting back on, however the latest reports here were that they don't want you back so fast :(

Is your business checking account still open?
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