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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1708476 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4820 on: May 22, 2014, 02:54:36 PM »
Just checked my UR balance after my A/A and for my SP wich statement close today they only gave me 3k points not 43k (i reached the spend this month) Any chance i will get the 40k? should i call and ask for it?
The bonus always comes a little later, IME.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4821 on: May 22, 2014, 02:57:25 PM »
PHEW! think it will come? do i have to rush to empty or can i wait for all my staments to close?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4822 on: May 22, 2014, 04:09:17 PM »
I have to move my points out of Chase ASAP, where should I move them to?
 (I don't usually redeem rewards I try to cash out).
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4823 on: May 22, 2014, 09:09:08 PM »
I just got my fourth card from a 4bm approved through reconsideration.

My revolving credit limits are equal to my income (actually more than reported income) should I reduce credit lines on some accounts? Is there anything I could do to protect myself?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4824 on: May 22, 2014, 10:50:01 PM »
Anyone know if BA 50k will post if i met threshhold and got A/A before statement closed?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4825 on: May 23, 2014, 02:28:50 AM »
Anyone know if BA 50k will post if i met threshhold and got A/A before statement closed?
Why don't you just wait and see? It's not like theres anything you could do about it anyway.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4826 on: May 23, 2014, 09:28:27 AM »
What about me?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4827 on: May 23, 2014, 09:53:26 AM »
I just got my fourth card from a 4bm approved through reconsideration.

My revolving credit limits are equal to my income (actually more than reported income) should I reduce credit lines on some accounts? Is there anything I could do to protect myself?
Yes. Use the card as was intended. DO NOT MS. You should be fine.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4828 on: May 23, 2014, 11:29:06 AM »
I need to spend 11k in 3 months. How could I do that? Au?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4829 on: May 23, 2014, 04:25:26 PM »
I need to spend 11k in 3 months. How could I do that? Au?

I need to spend 20k in one month so....

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4830 on: May 23, 2014, 06:10:33 PM »
Without manufactured spend?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4831 on: May 26, 2014, 11:18:06 PM »
Has anyone ever attempted sending in letter to correspondence explaining situation to attempt reinstatement?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4832 on: May 26, 2014, 11:19:42 PM »
Has anyone ever attempted sending in letter to correspondence explaining situation to attempt reinstatement?
lol.  You try that and get back to us...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4833 on: May 26, 2014, 11:30:22 PM »
lol.  You try that and get back to us...
Does that mean its a waste of time???? Any experience on getting signup bonus if met threshold and got closed before statement closes?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4834 on: May 26, 2014, 11:37:30 PM »
Does that mean its a waste of time???? Any experience on getting signup bonus if met threshold and got closed before statement closes?
Chase might as well be a brick wall once you get A/A'd.  The executive office will just stonewall you, and everyone else will just tell you to talk to the executive office.

But if you're already AA'd, I guess you have nothing to lose but your time in trying.

As of late, Chase seems not to be confiscating points earned prior to closing, but YMMV.  They used to take everything away the instant you were closed down.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4835 on: May 26, 2014, 11:42:53 PM »
On the letter it said i can use my points for up to 90 days and will recieve points for all my spend just the sign up bonus for the sp didnt come in with statement closing just 3k points. Wanted to know if anyone had any info  thanks

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4836 on: May 26, 2014, 11:45:48 PM »
On the letter it said i can use my points for up to 90 days and will recieve points for all my spend just the sign up bonus for the sp didnt come in with statement closing just 3k points. Wanted to know if anyone had any info  thanks
If they didn't show up automatically you probably won't get them.  Unless you want to threaten to sue.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4837 on: May 26, 2014, 11:46:33 PM »
My wife was AA'd after completing spend for SP and the points did show up after a while. Might not take quite as long to show up now. That was back when chase wasn't allowing access to points.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4838 on: May 26, 2014, 11:48:55 PM »

Does that mean its a waste of time???? Any experience on getting signup bonus if met threshold and got closed before statement closes?
IME I was A/Aed after meeting threshold before statement closed, the A/A initially resulted in confiscation of all my points, but when they released the points the bonus was among them. 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4839 on: May 26, 2014, 11:56:44 PM »
My wife was AA'd after completing spend for SP and the points did show up after a while. Might not take quite as long to show up now. That was back when chase wasn't allowing access to points.
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