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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1708732 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4860 on: June 09, 2014, 04:57:13 PM »
-1
Is the -1 for "IME"
???
Also were you successful by transferring UR-BA?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4861 on: June 09, 2014, 05:01:46 PM »
chase lets you transfer to any name online, as long it matches with the name in that program

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4862 on: June 09, 2014, 05:04:57 PM »
chase lets you transfer to any name online, as long it matches with the name in that program
I'll try one more time.

Did YOU(or someone you know) try to transfer "UR to BA"? (Its a yes or no Q!)

It's not chase that doesn't let its BA.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4863 on: June 09, 2014, 05:17:59 PM »
I'll try one more time.

Did YOU(or someone you know) try to transfer "UR to BA"? (Its a yes or no Q!)

It's not chase that doesn't let its BA.


yes make sure the names match

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4864 on: June 09, 2014, 10:32:42 PM »
By Chase, you usually know what you did wrong. Closures for too much credit are rare and they might only be the official excuse.

Huh??

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4865 on: June 09, 2014, 10:48:36 PM »
Huh??

+1. Welcome to the new Chase where to much credit is an actual reason.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4866 on: June 09, 2014, 11:44:03 PM »
If I open say 30k of CL in one month but shortly after I close down older cards to even it out can this still cause an A/A due to a spike in credit?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4867 on: June 09, 2014, 11:45:54 PM »
Anyone have any experience after getting A/Ad for to much credit if you lower your credit lines can you get reinstated or reapply?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4868 on: June 10, 2014, 12:25:26 AM »
+1. Welcome to the new Chase where to much credit is an actual reason.
is it to much credit with Chase or all banks combined?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4869 on: June 10, 2014, 12:39:29 AM »
If I open say 30k of CL in one month but shortly after I close down older cards to even it out can this still cause an A/A due to a spike in credit?
Yes, if Chase happens to do a routine check on you (soft pull) during that month you can get AA'd.
Anyone have any experience after getting A/Ad for to much credit if you lower your credit lines can you get reinstated or reapply?
I don't think anyone here has been successful in getting/keeping Chase credit cards after being A/A'd.
But if you lower your overall credit and wait some time, IMHO you have a good chance. I think it's about time someone try and let us know what happens, I have not tried yet as I'm busy with Citi AA Exec so I don't feel like taking chances with Chase when I could just use other banks instead.
is it to much credit with Chase or all banks combined?
Combined.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4870 on: June 10, 2014, 12:52:06 AM »
I believe it's somewhere on this thread but I'm on my BB (blackberry not bluebird) so it's hard for me to find it

1) What's considered to much credit. Let's say my income is 50k. Will 50k (from all banks combined) avail credit be to much? (If it is a prob how much wouldn't be?)

2) do all those stupid store cards (which I opened when I started to build my credit) count?

3) I assume that a charge card won't count to get A/A since it doesn't have avail credit, Right?

TIA
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4871 on: June 10, 2014, 01:38:49 AM »

I believe it's somewhere on this thread but I'm on my BB (blackberry not bluebird) so it's hard for me to find it

1) What's considered to much credit. Let's say my income is 50k. Will 50k (from all banks combined) avail credit be to much? (If it is a prob how much wouldn't be?)

2) do all those stupid store cards (which I opened when I started to build my credit) count?

3) I assume that a charge card won't count to get A/A since it doesn't have avail credit, Right?

TIA
1. Although there's no set amount, 50k CL on 50k income is probably on the border line.

2. Why not?

3. A) They might take your biggest balance and consider that your CL,

   B) They also take into consideration your overall number of accounts, which include charge cards too.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4872 on: June 10, 2014, 01:48:38 AM »
I'll try one more time.

Did YOU(or someone you know) try to transfer "UR to BA"? (Its a yes or no Q!)

It's not chase that doesn't let its BA.
Yes. I've probably done 30 transfers UR to BA. Make sure you have the correct Name and BA Account number.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4873 on: June 10, 2014, 10:19:00 AM »
1. Although there's no set amount, 50k CL on 50k income is probably on the border line.

2. Why not?

3. A) They might take your biggest balance and consider that your CL,

   B) They also take into consideration your overall number of accounts, which include charge cards too.

To my knowledge, AA has nothing to do with reported income. They look at  your credit report which does not state your income and they will not ask you for supporting documents.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4874 on: June 10, 2014, 10:56:35 AM »

To my knowledge, AA has nothing to do with reported income. They look at  your credit report which does not state your income and they will not ask you for supporting documents.
You might be right, since nobody knows on what they look and on what not.

But then again banks have your income information, since they probably didn't destroy your application information (see Amex F/R) so I assume they take a look at your whole profile before throwing you away.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4875 on: June 10, 2014, 05:23:01 PM »
To my knowledge, AA has nothing to do with reported income. They look at  your credit report which does not state your income and they will not ask you for supporting documents.
so on what is the TO MUCH CREDIT based on?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4876 on: June 10, 2014, 05:27:27 PM »
You might be right, since nobody knows on what they look and on what not.

But then again banks have your income information, since they probably didn't destroy your application information (see Amex F/R) so I assume they take a look at your whole profile before throwing you away.
Amex, Barclay and  Capital One definitely have the income info saved from the application. you can find it in your online profile (though Amex won't show you what you stated but there's an option to update income)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4877 on: June 10, 2014, 06:35:05 PM »

so on what is the TO MUCH CREDIT based on?
It's their official reason lots of times when they're asked.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4878 on: June 10, 2014, 07:47:35 PM »
I'll explain my question again.

+1. Welcome to the new Chase where to much credit is an actual reason.
If this is an actual reason + they don't consider income (look at youthink's post, reply #4873). how is it calculated, to much according to?
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Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4879 on: June 11, 2014, 01:51:20 AM »
I'll explain my question again.
If this is an actual reason + they don't consider income (look at youthink's post, reply #4873). how is it calculated, to much according to?
Nobody knows how Chase calculates stuff, especially these creepy stuff...

They probably have some sort of standard CL they consider reasonable,

But post #4873 is not a fact.
And looking at how Amex - as a lender - is so invested into the income factor when they decide to crack down, it leads to believe that Chase might as well do the same.