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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4880 on: June 11, 2014, 09:13:52 AM »
Nobody knows how Chase calculates stuff, especially these creepy stuff...

They probably have some sort of standard CL they consider reasonable,

But post #4873 is not a fact.
And looking at how Amex - as a lender - is so invested into the income factor when they decide to crack down, it leads to believe that Chase might as well do the same.

It's not a fact. But I've had extended conversations with them after my AA which I reported on many times here. Not once did they mention anything about income nor did they ask for any evidence if income. Over and over they said they base the decision on the credit report. They clearly said income is not important because 'you can lose your job.'

This is very unlike an amex FR where they actually review your income info. Chase basically relies on the almighty credit report. Even your fico score doesn't mean much. It's the details in the history.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4881 on: June 11, 2014, 09:28:09 AM »

It's not a fact. But I've had extended conversations with them after my AA which I reported on many times here. Not once did they mention anything about income nor did they ask for any evidence if income. Over and over they said they base the decision on the credit report. They clearly said income is not important because 'you can lose your job.'

This is very unlike an amex FR where they actually review your income info. Chase basically relies on the almighty credit report. Even your fico score doesn't mean much. It's the details in the history.
Then there you go

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4882 on: June 15, 2014, 07:20:37 PM »
Is paying cc bill from au back account consider 3 party account

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4883 on: June 15, 2014, 08:29:57 PM »

Is paying cc bill from au back account consider 3 party account
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4884 on: June 16, 2014, 12:08:16 AM »
Is it a problem to pay a chase bill from a different bank account thats at the same address, same last name but different first name?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4885 on: June 23, 2014, 03:53:50 PM »
I got  2 cards last month 1. For 8k 2. For 5k.
In general the past fee months I've been getting 7k of CL a month but I have closed a few cards.
Can I go for more cc's? Is it safe?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4886 on: June 28, 2014, 11:16:12 PM »
I got  2 cards last month 1. For 8k 2. For 5k.
In general the past fee months I've been getting 7k of CL a month but I have closed a few cards.
Can I go for more cc's? Is it safe?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4887 on: June 29, 2014, 02:16:31 AM »
I got  2 cards last month 1. For 8k 2. For 5k.
In general the past fee months I've been getting 7k of CL a month but I have closed a few cards.
Can I go for more cc's? Is it safe?
It depends on your reported income.  You can't have a credit line too high, but I don't know what percentage of your income they allow.   If they Chase keeps giving you cards, you probably haven't gone too high.  When your credit line does get too high, offer to move crdit lines and close cards to open new ones. 
The only problem is if you also are getting a lot of additional credit from other cc's.  Then I would balance it by closing other cards after you get the bonus or something.
But a CL of 30% of income is certainly safe.  I think it goes closer to 50%, but I don't know.                     
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4888 on: June 29, 2014, 04:26:11 PM »
It depends on your reported income.  You can't have a credit line too high, but I don't know what percentage of your income they allow.   If they Chase keeps giving you cards, you probably haven't gone too high.  When your credit line does get too high, offer to move crdit lines and close cards to open new ones. 
The only problem is if you also are getting a lot of additional credit from other cc's.  Then I would balance it by closing other cards after you get the bonus or something.
But a CL of 30% of income is certainly safe.  I think it goes closer to 50%, but I don't know.                     

my reported income is like 90k.
does business cards get calculated as regular CL?
if i keep opening and closing cc's which would mean overall a spike in CL wouldn't that get chase nervous?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4889 on: June 29, 2014, 09:43:51 PM »
my reported income is like 90k.
does business cards get calculated as regular CL?
if i keep opening and closing cc's which would mean overall a spike in CL wouldn't that get chase nervous?
I would feel comfortable to 40K.  Just my opinion.
Each credit pull is an independent picture.  Although they probably note trends, increases and decreases in CL are probably not that significat.  Find the % of each componenet on your credit score.   
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4890 on: June 30, 2014, 03:02:29 PM »
i'm not sure if this is an actual a/a- but chase reduced all of my and my husbands credit card account to $1000. has anyone had this happen before? they sent me a letter in the mail, but this is so weird and out of the blue. we both had about $20000 credit line with chase.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4891 on: June 30, 2014, 03:10:49 PM »
it does happen.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4892 on: June 30, 2014, 03:54:53 PM »
After an A/A i have some missing points i feel i deserve. How do i go about threatning to go to small claims court?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4893 on: June 30, 2014, 05:08:49 PM »
i'm not sure if this is an actual a/a- but chase reduced all of my and my husbands credit card account to $1000. has anyone had this happen before? they sent me a letter in the mail, but this is so weird and out of the blue. we both had about $20000 credit line with chase.
do you have any other cards past due or in collections?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4894 on: June 30, 2014, 05:12:25 PM »
After an A/A i have some missing points i feel i deserve. How do i go about threatning to go to small claims court?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4895 on: June 30, 2014, 09:06:10 PM »
After an A/A i have some missing points i feel i deserve. How do i go about threatning to go to small claims court?

Threatening won't help, either you sue or you don't.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4896 on: June 30, 2014, 10:48:12 PM »
Threatening won't help, either you sue or you don't.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4897 on: June 30, 2014, 11:38:46 PM »
i'm not sure if this is an actual a/a- but chase reduced all of my and my husbands credit card account to $1000. has anyone had this happen before? they sent me a letter in the mail, but this is so weird and out of the blue. we both had about $20000 credit line with chase.
Has something negative hit you or your husband's credit report recently?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4899 on: July 01, 2014, 10:44:43 AM »
How do you go about sueing?

Sue in your state or any state that has a Chase branch.