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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1708884 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5040 on: August 18, 2014, 09:30:27 PM »
I guess you will have to stay with this Avatar for now... :D

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5041 on: August 18, 2014, 09:31:27 PM »
what exactly did you do? UR transfers from one chase account to another person? transferring to someone else mileage account?
Or too many GC purchases?

transfer ur to ur , i also paid my cc @ the branch with a 3rd party check
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5042 on: August 19, 2014, 12:09:22 AM »
Not sure who sucks more; Chase by losing me or me by losing Chase.
But Chase shut down my cards.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5043 on: August 19, 2014, 12:10:41 AM »
Not sure who sucks more; Chase by losing me or me by losing Chase.
But Chase shut down my cards.

One of the times you really appreciate having a wife.
Recently or is this old news?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5044 on: August 19, 2014, 12:13:12 AM »
Not sure who sucks more; Chase by losing me or me by losing Chase.
But Chase shut down my cards.

One of the times you really appreciate having a wife.

I'll assume your wife has a different address, because otherwise SOP is to close all related accounts at the same address.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5045 on: August 19, 2014, 12:16:50 AM »
You think mesh lives with his wife?
She's in the mushroom lounge.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5046 on: August 19, 2014, 12:17:12 AM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5047 on: August 19, 2014, 12:20:29 AM »
I'll assume your wife has a different address, because otherwise SOP is to close all related accounts at the same address.
You what Dan says happens when you assume?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5048 on: August 19, 2014, 12:20:56 AM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5049 on: August 19, 2014, 12:38:40 AM »
Not sure who sucks more; Chase by losing me or me by losing Chase.
But Chase shut down my cards.
how much points are stuck  :-[

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5050 on: August 19, 2014, 01:07:30 AM »
Not sure who sucks more; Chase by losing me or me by losing Chase.
But Chase shut down my cards.

One of the times you really appreciate having a wife.
Was this recently?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5051 on: August 19, 2014, 02:25:04 AM »
...because otherwise SOP is to close all related accounts at the same address.
YMMV
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5052 on: August 19, 2014, 02:26:42 AM »
I remember a time when it was thought CB was high risk with Chase. Man how times have changed.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5053 on: August 19, 2014, 01:17:18 PM »
You what Dan says happens when you assume?

Happened to me , Evan 2 Business that were linked to my payee accounts were also closed they were not on my name
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5054 on: August 19, 2014, 01:45:03 PM »
Not sure who sucks more; Chase by losing me or me by losing Chase.
But Chase shut down my cards.

One of the times you really appreciate having a wife.

What # shutdown by Chase is this for you?

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Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5055 on: August 19, 2014, 09:46:08 PM »
One of the times you really appreciate having a wife.
That won't last long

Edit: the cards part that is..

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5056 on: August 19, 2014, 10:30:31 PM »
That won't last long

Edit: the cards part that is..
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5057 on: August 20, 2014, 04:01:51 AM »
I'm reading this thread for the first time, for all the wrong reasons :'( :'( :'(

I opened my account today to see all my card accounts closed, (feels like I've been punched in the gut).

so where do I begin :'(. I've read the wiki its quite helpful,
This isnt a case of perk abuse, 99% sure its too large CL & maxing it out.

1) Do I need to be worried about wifes cc accounts, we also have a joint checking that's linked to both profiles that seems to be untouched

2) should I pay off my cc's before I call them

3) DO I need to read through all 330+ pages of this thread  ;)

4) Does it pay to call the Exec department, will they ask me for tax docs &/or ask questions that can't be answered + any recent success stories of exec dept reopening accounts

5) Can I close out my cards proactively so that it doesn't hit my Credit Report or is it to late.?

TIA
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5058 on: August 20, 2014, 05:35:15 AM »
1 - probably not
2 - does not matter
3 - your call
4 - no but it does not hurt
5 - to late
6 - Just a comment. Welcome to the club.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5059 on: August 20, 2014, 08:28:30 AM »

1 - probably not
2 - does not matter
3 - your call
4 - no but it does not hurt
5 - to late
6 - Just a comment. Welcome to the club.  :)
yeh thanks, it sucks


So what comes up on my CR, how bad is it, am I at risk of my cards getting shut down from different banks