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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1709358 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5100 on: August 27, 2014, 03:25:30 PM »
Oiy, meshugener I just read the bad news about your shut down. I really feel bad for you.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5101 on: August 27, 2014, 03:49:31 PM »
Dump the UR into a United (or another airline) account under your name ASAP
-1 nothing what to rush. You could sell the points to any broker. does not have be to your own name no risk anymore.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5102 on: August 27, 2014, 04:55:32 PM »
When people are comparing their credit limits to their income are they including credit cards for which they are authorized users or only primary credit accounts?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5103 on: August 27, 2014, 10:08:45 PM »
I believe a business credit report goes by business and not by person. Meaning, they can see that my business has -let say- 6 CCs but they shouldn't see who took responsibility on the application, it may be my partner. Please CMIIW.
what if you biz shows as sole proprietorship? IDK anything about biz reports just saying that there a possibility to see biz CL.
though most likely thy do not see biz cards from another bank   
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5104 on: August 27, 2014, 10:29:20 PM »
-1 nothing what to rush. You could sell the points to any broker. does not have be to your own name no risk anymore.
I took the plunge & transfered to my wifes UR, I figure that you're clearly allowed to transfer to a spouse so I'll take the risk

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5105 on: August 27, 2014, 10:51:04 PM »
When people are comparing their credit limits to their income are they including credit cards for which they are authorized users or only primary credit accounts?
I only look at primary.
Anyone have a different thought?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5106 on: August 28, 2014, 12:46:24 AM »
Oiy, meshugener I just read the bad news about your shut down. I really feel bad for you.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5107 on: August 28, 2014, 12:23:59 PM »
Chase A/A department woke up again for people combinding points ect...
Watch what you do and to whom you sell your points

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5108 on: August 28, 2014, 12:33:30 PM »

I only look at primary.
Anyone have a different thought?
Credit reports consider CL you're authorized to use, as your CL, and I assume the only way Chase knows your CL is thru a soft pull on that report.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5109 on: August 29, 2014, 12:25:57 AM »
Credit reports consider CL you're authorized to use, as your CL, and I assume the only way Chase knows your CL is thru a soft pull on that report.
interesting.  But will they consider the combined credit line to be 'too much credit'?  Or the soft pull will give them the whole picture and it won't alarm them?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5110 on: August 29, 2014, 09:53:44 AM »
Finally some positive news from AAland. I applied recently after almost 3 years of being AAd. I was initially declined because of 'previous negative relationship with the bank' but called in to the Exec office even though I've had 0 success there in the past. I didn't have to plead my case as they simply told me someone will review and get back to me. About a week later I get a call saying I've been approved.  They say they went back to their lending department who reviewed my case and determined they would like to 'renew the relationship' and that they will update my profile accordingly.

Now, the original AA was because I was deemed a credit risk. Too many recently opened cards, not enough history etc. I have been extremely careful over the last few years to improve my credit and my score went from about 730 to over 820. The original shutdown was definitely not warranted (in my eyes), but at least Chase took a reasonable and logical look and liked what they saw.

I don't know if this helps anyone but the only thing I can offer is that if you believe you're no longer a 'credit risk' ask the Executive Department to send your case back to the Lending Department for review. It's not how persuasive you are. They need to come to their own conclusion you cannot do it for them.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5111 on: August 29, 2014, 10:13:38 AM »
My brother was approved for his first chase cc a united card six month back paid it in full each month never late and last week I sew the account is closed . so I call theme up in this is what they say.

1 too many inquiries

2 to much credit with other cards . this is not true because he only has 2 more cards with other bank unless they r counting AU

3 the account came up for review so we took a look on u credit

its sad they r saying I should call back in 45 days and try again do u think he will get open again or it a waste of time .
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5112 on: August 29, 2014, 10:13:56 AM »

they would like to 'renew the relationship' and that they will update my profile accordingly.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5113 on: August 29, 2014, 11:26:43 AM »
Finally some positive news from AAland. I applied recently after almost 3 years of being AAd. I was initially declined because of 'previous negative relationship with the bank' but called in to the Exec office even though I've had 0 success there in the past. I didn't have to plead my case as they simply told me someone will review and get back to me. About a week later I get a call saying I've been approved.  They say they went back to their lending department who reviewed my case and determined they would like to 'renew the relationship' and that they will update my profile accordingly.

Now, the original AA was because I was deemed a credit risk. Too many recently opened cards, not enough history etc. I have been extremely careful over the last few years to improve my credit and my score went from about 730 to over 820. The original shutdown was definitely not warranted (in my eyes), but at least Chase took a reasonable and logical look and liked what they saw.

I don't know if this helps anyone but the only thing I can offer is that if you believe you're no longer a 'credit risk' ask the Executive Department to send your case back to the Lending Department for review. It's not how persuasive you are. They need to come to their own conclusion you cannot do it for them.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5114 on: August 29, 2014, 03:27:01 PM »
Will a chase shutdown hurt my ability to get other CC?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5115 on: August 29, 2014, 06:23:34 PM »
Will a chase shutdown hurt my ability to get other CC?
No

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5116 on: August 30, 2014, 09:30:05 PM »
Will a chase shutdown hurt my ability to get other CC?

It may.

On a manual review of your credit report, it'll show that Chase shut you down, which may ring some unwanted bells to the reviewing creditor.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5117 on: August 30, 2014, 11:03:06 PM »

It may.

On a manual review of your credit report, it'll show that Chase shut you down, which may ring some unwanted bells to the reviewing creditor.
...And if that unwanted ringed bell directs them to a clean report, it shouldn't be a problem at all.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5118 on: August 30, 2014, 11:59:24 PM »
I Got Approved For A Few CC from different banks after I was  AAed.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5119 on: August 31, 2014, 01:27:41 AM »
...And if that unwanted ringed bell directs them to a clean report, it shouldn't be a problem at all.

The bell itself is an unclean report.
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