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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5220 on: October 23, 2014, 08:23:01 AM »
Waste of time as usual.
She told me there's no way she can predict what their decision will be. I have to apply and see. They will take credit history and previous relationships into account.

I told her a colleague had called the bank about the same issue and was told that chase was ready to overlook his relationship history and judge him based solely on credit and she said sorry but there's no one here that could tell you that.
And here I was waiting for some besurois toivois after all your suspension updates

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5221 on: October 23, 2014, 08:24:17 AM »
So was I
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5222 on: October 23, 2014, 11:10:25 AM »
Are you gonna try?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5223 on: October 23, 2014, 01:05:44 PM »
Not planning to at the moment.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5224 on: October 27, 2014, 06:05:21 PM »
If ridiculousness would make people short, Chase would've been able to dive into the cover of a beer bottle and swim.

I just got called over to the branch for an interrogation session with a banker who had a list of questions sent to him by the Chase compliance dept.
They sifted through tons of banking transactions over the past year.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5225 on: October 27, 2014, 06:08:11 PM »
If ridiculousness would make people short, Chase would've been able to dive into the cover of a beer bottle and swim.

I just got called over to the branch for an interrogation session with a banker who had a list of questions sent to him by the Chase compliance dept.
They sifted through tons of banking transactions over the past year.

This is modern day communism.
Do they know specifically what you purchased or only totals ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5226 on: October 27, 2014, 06:09:42 PM »
If ridiculousness would make people short, Chase would've been able to dive into the cover of a beer bottle and swim.

I just got called over to the branch for an interrogation session with a banker who had a list of questions sent to him by the Chase compliance dept.
They sifted through tons of banking transactions over the past year.

This is modern day communism.
Was this personal? Or had something to do with MS?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5227 on: October 27, 2014, 06:10:36 PM »
If ridiculousness would make people short, Chase would've been able to dive into the cover of a beer bottle and swim.

I just got called over to the branch for an interrogation session with a banker who had a list of questions sent to him by the Chase compliance dept.
They sifted through tons of banking transactions over the past year.

This is modern day communism.
How did it end up?
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5228 on: October 27, 2014, 06:10:55 PM »
Do they know specifically what you purchased or only totals ?
They asked me what those transactions were for.

Was this personal? Or had something to do with MS?
Business.
No MS of any sort.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5229 on: October 27, 2014, 06:11:47 PM »
How did it end up?
Thanks for your time and have a great day.

They're probably going to review the answers and have a verdict...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5230 on: October 27, 2014, 06:21:41 PM »
Thanks for your time and have a great day.

They're probably going to review the answers and have a verdict...
Did he say you're in any trouble ? Doesn't every business do a ton of transactions ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5231 on: October 27, 2014, 06:37:44 PM »
They asked me what those transactions were for.
Business.
No MS of any sort.
That's actually good news. Means they can't know what you bought

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5232 on: October 27, 2014, 06:38:16 PM »
That's actually good news. Means they can't know what you bought
I got nothing to hide.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5233 on: October 27, 2014, 06:40:24 PM »
I got nothing to hide.
I meant that their systems don't automatically know what you bought and that's why they had to ask.
Them not being able to tell by themselves is good news to most ms'ers

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5234 on: October 27, 2014, 06:42:48 PM »
I meant that their systems don't automatically know what you bought and that's why they had to ask.
Them not being able to tell by themselves is good news to most ms'ers
i'm not convinced that's true. my amex business card prints right on it that the purchase was for GC's
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5235 on: October 27, 2014, 06:44:12 PM »
i'm not convinced that's true. my amex business card prints right on it that the purchase was for GC's
This is the Chase thread... obviously, also depends on the store and on how they report

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5236 on: October 27, 2014, 06:53:34 PM »
amex saw from staples. I don't know what or how they send to chase.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5237 on: October 27, 2014, 07:04:32 PM »
I meant that their systems don't automatically know what you bought and that's why they had to ask.
Them not being able to tell by themselves is good news to most ms'ers
You're messed up.

I'm talking about banking. How the hell would a bank know what a check was paid for?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5238 on: October 27, 2014, 07:07:14 PM »
You're messed up.

I'm talking about banking. How the hell would a bank know what a check was paid for?
You're right. I missed the word "banking"in your post. Sorry

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5239 on: October 28, 2014, 12:54:11 PM »
my Brother was A/A'd a year ago and they also closed my cc's because of transferring ur to ur i reapplied 10 months later for southwest and was approved and 3 months later for ua was also approved not 3 months later i applied for sapphire and was denied for miss use of ur .does this mean another A/A or only the sapphire they won't approve?