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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1709411 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5300 on: December 06, 2014, 06:45:13 PM »
UPDATE:
Wife who was shut down as well when we were A/Aed almost a year ago, was just approved for BA!
She called in not 'knowing' () what the "Previous unsatisfactory relationship with the bank" was, after a ten minute hold, and some brief questions and confirmation that she has NO IDEA why she was shut down in the first place , she was approved for $11k!
You're card is still alive and well? How long was it since you had the card new card?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5301 on: December 06, 2014, 06:51:14 PM »

You're card is still alive and well? How long was it since you had the card new card?
The new cards? Just got it now...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5302 on: December 06, 2014, 11:50:12 PM »
She called in not 'knowing' () what the "Previous unsatisfactory relationship with the bank" was, after a ten minute hold, and some brief questions and confirmation that she has NO IDEA why she was shut down in the first place , she was approved for $11k!
Just don't default on the card, because after an investigation she could get thrown in jail for credit card fraud
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5303 on: December 06, 2014, 11:53:41 PM »

Just don't default on the card, because after an investigation she could get thrown in jail for credit card fraud
I was planning to default on this particular card, thanks for pointing this out, Ergel!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5304 on: December 07, 2014, 10:51:12 PM »
Chase has changed their MO lately. You also need to wait a month and see if they don't shut you down.
you think I should try reapplying if I was shut down a couple months ago?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5305 on: December 08, 2014, 12:35:07 PM »
Approved for a business card with 22k, making my total credit line including with personal cards about 85% of my income. Should I request a reduction?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5306 on: December 08, 2014, 01:46:45 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5307 on: December 08, 2014, 03:03:03 PM »
i noticed that there are 2 kinds of A/A i was and my wife was she b"h got back in the game about 9 months later and i'm still out
"Credit Cards delaying arguments for 30 Days"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5308 on: December 08, 2014, 03:05:15 PM »
i noticed that there are 2 kinds of A/A i was and my wife was she b"h got back in the game about 9 months later and i'm still out
Was the reason for the A/A the same for both of you ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5309 on: December 08, 2014, 03:10:43 PM »
mine was prob for depositing third party checks, wife was ur to ur
"Credit Cards delaying arguments for 30 Days"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5310 on: December 08, 2014, 03:14:57 PM »
mine was prob for depositing third party checks, wife was ur to ur
Depositing 3rd party checks into a checking account or paying cc bills ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5311 on: December 08, 2014, 03:17:57 PM »
Depositing 3rd party checks into a checking account or paying cc bills ?

Paying cc bills
"Credit Cards delaying arguments for 30 Days"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5312 on: December 08, 2014, 03:33:46 PM »
mine was prob for depositing third party checks, wife was ur to ur
What's wrong with depositing third party checks?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5313 on: December 08, 2014, 03:36:28 PM »
What's wrong with depositing third party checks?
Don't pay your cc bills with a 3rd party check.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5314 on: December 08, 2014, 03:39:23 PM »
Don't pay your cc bills with a 3rd party check.
Third party meaning, I can't pay my mothers CC bill directly from my account to her CC account?  Or does it mean with a third party check, that is made out to a 3rd party and endorsed?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5315 on: December 08, 2014, 04:15:55 PM »

i noticed that there are 2 kinds of A/A i was and my wife was she b"h got back in the game about 9 months later and i'm still out
mine was prob for depositing third party checks, wife was ur to ur
We also paid cc with 3rd party (big amounts, and multiple sources) and deposited 3rd party checks, right before shutdown, and we both came back recently, I don't think that's a big issue.

In fact, the rep who approve my wife threw in words something like "make sure to only use your own checks"... Which I assume means they saw the sin.. and still decided to approve.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5316 on: December 08, 2014, 05:16:34 PM »
the system did automatically approve me when i received the cards they  were closed
"Credit Cards delaying arguments for 30 Days"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5317 on: December 08, 2014, 05:17:00 PM »
Third party meaning, I can't pay my mothers CC bill directly from my account to her CC account?  Or does it mean with a third party check, that is made out to a 3rd party and endorsed?

made out to a third party and endorced
"Credit Cards delaying arguments for 30 Days"

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5318 on: December 09, 2014, 11:37:41 AM »

We also paid cc with 3rd party (big amounts, and multiple sources) and deposited 3rd party checks, right before shutdown, and we both came back recently, I don't think that's a big issue.

In fact, the rep who approve my wife threw in words something like "make sure to only use your own checks"... Which I assume means they saw the sin.. and still decided to approve.

How long ago were you approved?
Cards still alive?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5319 on: December 09, 2014, 12:34:50 PM »

How long ago were you approved?
Cards still alive?
Last couple of weeks. Yes.