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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5381 on: January 10, 2015, 08:55:02 PM »
You mean the bank, but not the person?
Correct. I pay all family CC's from my account and never had a problem.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5382 on: January 10, 2015, 08:55:29 PM »
Correct. I pay all family CC's from my account and never had a problem.
Any way for me to join your family?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5383 on: January 10, 2015, 08:56:46 PM »
Any way for me to join your family?

Sure. PM me Name, SS#, DOB and mothers maiden name.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5384 on: January 10, 2015, 08:57:12 PM »
Sure. PM me Name, SS#, DOB and mothers maiden name.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5385 on: January 10, 2015, 08:58:41 PM »
Via bill pay? Same last name?
Every BP I have to Chase is via ACH. One is a different last name.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5386 on: January 10, 2015, 08:58:45 PM »

Any way for me to join your family?

You'll have to change LOTS of things
Correct. I pay all family CC's from my account and never had a problem.
Via bill pay? Same last name?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5387 on: January 10, 2015, 09:03:25 PM »

I would think it's the opposite. But I have no proof either way.
Why?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5388 on: January 10, 2015, 09:43:12 PM »
I just got approved for the chase ritz carlton card after chase closed all of my accounts 1 year ago should I be scared to use it . what should watch out not to be aa again ? I used it and I got my points ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5389 on: January 12, 2015, 08:02:31 PM »
Anyone that sued Chase in SCC for the UR points got approved again?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5390 on: January 13, 2015, 11:52:04 AM »
freinds account was a/a'd last year got back in the game 8 months later and played carefully couldn't get approved for any ur cards because he transferred ur to ur on his old cards.
now he sees his ua and ba account are closed the only thing he did was asked them to shift over credit from one card to the other ,
question are his ba points safe?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5391 on: January 13, 2015, 01:12:43 PM »
question are his ba points safe?
As long as they're in his BA account, they're safe.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5392 on: January 13, 2015, 03:00:27 PM »
The number on the wiki from executive dept. is not in service. Does anyone have another number were to call?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5393 on: January 20, 2015, 08:34:42 PM »
The number on the wiki from executive dept. is not in service. Does anyone have another number were to call?
I don't see any number in the wiki what do you have?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5394 on: January 20, 2015, 08:39:48 PM »
I got a letter that chase is closing my ink bold and United business card.
Does anyone know if these closures will hit my credit report? since they are business cards.
Bh I was able transfer out my U2 point to avios.
Also what's the number to call?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5395 on: January 20, 2015, 09:13:06 PM »
I got a letter that chase is closing my ink bold and United business card.
Does anyone know if these closures will hit my credit report? since they are business cards.
Bh I was able transfer out my U2 point to avios.
Also what's the number to call?
Do you know what you did to cause the closure?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5396 on: January 20, 2015, 09:45:53 PM »
Do you know what you did to cause the closure?
Maybe too much spending on red cards?
I deposited 3rd party check to pay the card a couple of weeks ago maybe it's that.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5397 on: January 20, 2015, 10:16:25 PM »
Maybe too much spending on red cards?
I deposited 3rd party check to pay the card a couple of weeks ago maybe it's that.
Most likely 3rd party checks

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5399 on: January 20, 2015, 10:55:34 PM »
will the closed accounts show on my Credit reprot?