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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1708345 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5420 on: January 28, 2015, 11:34:09 AM »
Dead accounts will hurt him vis-a-vis an increase in utilization.

Your evidence of a friend getting a "good" mortgage, is nothing more than anecdotal. Further, your particular definition of "good" is immaterial. Last, for as much as you know, "good" could have been "great" had his accounts not been shut down.
That's all that it will hurt? That's fine then. He had 3500 overall CL before joining this game last month. Then he went up to 43.5K courtesy of Chase and now with the dead accounts, he'll fall back to 3500 which means his utilization will just go back to what it was 2 months ago.

I know the terms I used don't help very much; I just don't know exact numbers. Although the fact that "good" could have been "great" is a good point.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5421 on: January 28, 2015, 01:44:55 PM »
Any suggestions for what he can do to get the accounts reinstated? The best advice I had was to call the exec number, but it seems dead.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5422 on: January 28, 2015, 05:23:03 PM »

Any suggestions for what he can do to get the accounts reinstated? The best advice I had was to call the exec number, but it seems dead.
Time heals.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5423 on: January 28, 2015, 07:48:28 PM »

Time heals.
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BD"E
I tried calling exec. Office and got nowhere.

Wife and I both got approved after completion of Kaddish Ka'h.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5424 on: January 28, 2015, 09:45:15 PM »
Wife and I both got approved after completion of Kaddish Ka'h.
How long ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5425 on: January 28, 2015, 10:06:11 PM »

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5426 on: January 28, 2015, 10:09:36 PM »
Kadish? 11 months
I meant how long till he got approved again.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5427 on: January 29, 2015, 11:49:02 AM »
Kadish? 11 months
after A/A could be 12 months :'(
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5428 on: January 30, 2015, 11:26:47 AM »

Kadish? 11 months
Correct. Approved 11 months after A/A b"H Ka'h.

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Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5429 on: January 31, 2015, 11:22:35 PM »
Recently chase has closed hundreds of business bank accounts and credit cards primarily in Brooklyn for no reason. Has anyone had their accounts closed? Please hit the comments for any ideas opinions etc.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5430 on: January 31, 2015, 11:28:45 PM »
How can they close accounts for no reason? What's your evidence?

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5431 on: January 31, 2015, 11:30:21 PM »
Hmm it was discussed somewhere in the forums regarding closing down accounts, and where did you hear about hundreds of business accounts being shut?
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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5432 on: January 31, 2015, 11:30:38 PM »
Recently chase has closed hundreds of business bank accounts and credit cards primarily in Brooklyn for no reason. Has anyone had their accounts closed? Please hit the comments for any ideas opinions etc.
they closed down all checking accounts at my house last september except for 1 personal account by my mother
no idea why

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5433 on: January 31, 2015, 11:31:32 PM »
How can they close accounts for no reason? What's your evidence?
according to the terms they are allowed to close the accounts whenever they want without any explanation
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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5434 on: January 31, 2015, 11:32:05 PM »
they closed down all checking accounts at my house last september except for 1 personal account by my mother
no idea why
At your house? You mean with the same address?

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5435 on: January 31, 2015, 11:32:37 PM »
They just sent a letter saying acct closed? No explanation? What did they say when you called?

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5436 on: January 31, 2015, 11:33:09 PM »
according to the terms they are allowed to close the accounts whenever they want without any explanation
They don't usually do it without rhyme or reason.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5437 on: January 31, 2015, 11:34:06 PM »
As per the agreement you sign when you open a bank account, it says that they can close your accounts for any reason at any time. I spoke to managers, directors, vp's and the president of chase, they all said there is a reason but they can't say. I personally know 15 people it happen to in the ,sat month. Get ready it's going to happen to lots of people.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5438 on: January 31, 2015, 11:36:06 PM »
THE SHUT DOWNS ON MS SPENDERS,  APPLYING CARDS MANY TIMES IN SEVERAL MONTHS, CLOSING CARDS AFTER BONUS.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5439 on: January 31, 2015, 11:36:18 PM »
Someone on DDF must know what's going on?