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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5440 on: January 31, 2015, 11:39:23 PM »
THE SHUT DOWNS ON MS SPENDERS,  APPLYING CARDS MANY TIMES IN SEVERAL MONTHS, CLOSING CARDS AFTER BONUS.
Business bank accounts ?

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5441 on: January 31, 2015, 11:41:56 PM »
It has nothing to do with points. Our business accumulated millions of points by normal spending on their business cards, and we never sold a single point. It starts with the business bank account, then They close your credit cards, then they close accounts of people you do business with. They have recently stated with large volume accounts and are now closing even small accounts. I'm surprised not to find this topic on DDF... I think everyone is in for a big surprise when the letters start arriving.

They give you a 30-60 notice for bank accounts and no warning for credit cards.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5442 on: January 31, 2015, 11:42:02 PM »
according to the terms they are allowed to close the accounts whenever they want without any explanation

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What was the date of the letter?

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5443 on: January 31, 2015, 11:42:33 PM »
THE SHUT DOWNS ON MS SPENDERS,  APPLYING CARDS MANY TIMES IN SEVERAL MONTHS, CLOSING CARDS AFTER BONUS.
Not true I know people that had theres shut down that never did any of that stuff
also in my case they only closed bank accounts not C.C.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5444 on: January 31, 2015, 11:44:04 PM »
according to the terms they are allowed to close the accounts whenever they want without any explanation



What was the date of the letter?
August 27th

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5445 on: January 31, 2015, 11:44:44 PM »
I know someone who had a heavy bank account and credit card account, he got a letter that Chase is terminating their relationship with him as of ... date, no reason given

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5446 on: January 31, 2015, 11:46:16 PM »
I think that when everyone gets the letter politicians need to get involved. They are only doing this in Brooklyn.  There is no reason for them to have so many branches here.

Dan - have you heard of this issue? Any ideas what we can do?

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5447 on: January 31, 2015, 11:50:34 PM »
I think that when everyone gets the letter politicians need to get involved. They are only doing this in Brooklyn.  There is no reason for them to have so many branches here.

Dan - have you heard of this issue? Any ideas what we can do?
not only in brooklyn my brother in law got it in cedarhurst
also
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/chase-bank-california-c342077.html

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5448 on: January 31, 2015, 11:58:48 PM »
It has nothing to do with points. Our business accumulated millions of points by normal spending on their business cards, and we never sold a single point. It starts with the business bank account, then They close your credit cards, then they close accounts of people you do business with. They have recently stated with large volume accounts and are now closing even small accounts. I'm surprised not to find this topic on DDF... I think everyone is in for a big surprise when the letters start arriving.

They give you a 30-60 notice for bank accounts and no warning for credit cards.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11216.msg1044246#msg1044246

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5449 on: February 01, 2015, 12:01:23 AM »
Maybe Tim T can find it! somewhere in the forums someone posted regarding the Muslim community I think from NY that their bank accounts were getting shut down.
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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5450 on: February 01, 2015, 12:02:57 AM »
It has nothing to do with credit cards. They first decide not to do business with you and close your bank account, then the credit card closure follows.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5451 on: February 01, 2015, 12:05:55 AM »
Did they deposit third party checks?

Money talks...mine says goodbye!

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5452 on: February 01, 2015, 12:07:25 AM »
NO NO NO, normal use like any other business with any other bank

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5453 on: February 01, 2015, 12:07:39 AM »
Maybe Tim T can find it! somewhere in the forums someone posted regarding the Muslim community I think from NY that there bank accounts were getting shut down.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11216.msg772174.msg#772174

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5454 on: February 01, 2015, 12:07:52 AM »
Getting rid of affiliate links, ending relationships and closing accounts, ..... Chase seems to be doing some kind of major overhaul

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5456 on: February 01, 2015, 12:12:05 AM »
good boy ;)
Sorry, I left the computer for 10 minutes. #neveragain :)
I wonder what chase is up to.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5457 on: February 01, 2015, 12:12:45 AM »
NO NO NO, normal use like any other business with any other bank
I know of 2 business that were shut were shut now.  One of them was BYA of flatbush

Money talks...mine says goodbye!

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5458 on: February 01, 2015, 12:12:55 AM »
Getting rid of affiliate links, ending relationships and closing accounts, ..... Chase seems to be doing some kind of major overhaul
Thats why a lot of people don't use chase they rather use the smaller banks, because chase is so big that they will just close your account when ever they want, where the smaller banks need your business.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5459 on: February 01, 2015, 12:14:08 AM »
My advice to Mr. Hello234 is not to take this so personal. Just move on to the next bank. If you're from Borough Park, the next bank should not me more than a  half a block away ;)

And remember that there is light at the end of the tunnel; I am now getting back on with Chase after being shut down about a year ago.