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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1706924 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5540 on: February 14, 2015, 10:05:01 PM »
Does anyone know if paying off a CC in the bank with cash raise a red flag? TIA!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5541 on: February 15, 2015, 11:10:22 AM »

Does anyone know if paying off a CC in the bank with cash raise a red flag? TIA!
They don't like it, don't know what color flag it raises though.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5542 on: February 15, 2015, 11:13:28 AM »
Would this negatively affect her credit score since it was shut down by the bank?
Short answer, no.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5543 on: February 15, 2015, 11:29:35 AM »
They don't like it, don't know what color flag it raises though.
how do you know they don't like it. I've been doing it for years with no problem.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5544 on: February 15, 2015, 11:39:17 AM »
how do you know they don't like it. I've been doing it for years with no problem.
Always exceptions to the rules.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5545 on: February 15, 2015, 02:48:45 PM »
how do you know they don't like it. I've been doing it for years with no problem.
Bank manager told me.
And there's
Always exceptions to the rules.
At least until that exception ends

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5546 on: February 16, 2015, 02:00:16 PM »
Someone was shut down for successful 3bm with new credit and quick threshold. Also got a couple cards from other banks a bit before. Shutdown happened before first statement,  so the account never even showed up on credit report. Anyone have experience with this? Can they go for a couple more chase apps right away?
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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5549 on: February 18, 2015, 01:31:24 AM »
So they apologized for seizing bank accounts from people that were committing a crime?
They can't prove I'm structuring deposits that way. Maybe I only make $9500 a day.

& what about this ?  "In some cases the irs seized & held bank accounts for years without bringing charges."

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5551 on: February 18, 2015, 01:36:01 AM »
you can add me to your list of ppl that chase closed their account..
How long did it take you to get your money back ?

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5552 on: February 18, 2015, 01:42:25 AM »
They can't prove I'm structuring deposits that way. Maybe I only make $9500 a day.
Maybe pigs fly.  :P
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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5553 on: February 18, 2015, 01:48:18 AM »
Maybe pigs fly.  :P
If I made less than 10k I shouldn't have to wait to make a deposit. That agency has been abusing their power for far too long. Even making new rules that give themselves more power with no oversight. It's good to see they're finally in the hot seat.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5555 on: February 18, 2015, 01:59:26 AM »
If I made less than 10k I shouldn't have to wait to make a deposit. That agency has been abusing their power for far too long. Even making new rules that give themselves more power with no oversight. It's good to see they're finally in the hot seat.
They should be in the hot seat but not for when they feel there is structuring involved.
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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5556 on: February 18, 2015, 02:04:57 AM »
I just realized that in the collive article there is a linky to this thread.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5557 on: February 18, 2015, 02:05:57 AM »
That's why I posted it here, nu.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5558 on: February 18, 2015, 02:07:02 AM »
They should be in the hot seat but not for when they feel there is structuring involved.
Seizing accounts is child's play compared to the abuse they've been getting away with. The auditing scandal is 1 good example.

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Re: Chase shutting down a large number of bank accounts
« Reply #5559 on: February 18, 2015, 02:09:09 AM »
That's why I posted it here, nu.
There were only 100 complaints between DDF & that other site ? Doesn't sound right. :)