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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1705723 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5580 on: March 04, 2015, 11:00:30 PM »
Why did they shut you down

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5581 on: March 05, 2015, 09:36:23 AM »
Why did they shut you down
They said too many open cards and too much access to credit.. anyone have an address I can write to??

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5582 on: March 09, 2015, 11:46:14 AM »
Got the southwest cards, almost at the 60 days to cancel.
Should I risk it? Or leave them open for a year to avoid getting A/A?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5583 on: March 09, 2015, 11:53:08 AM »
Got the southwest cards, almost at the 60 days to cancel.
Should I risk it? Or leave them open for a year to avoid getting A/A?
Closing them after 2 months is an A/A risk ? Wasn't aware

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5584 on: March 09, 2015, 12:00:44 PM »
Closing them after 2 months is an A/A risk ? Wasn't aware

Idk I'm asking. What about closing within the 60 days?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5585 on: March 09, 2015, 12:14:09 PM »
Idk I'm asking. What about closing within the 60 days?
IDK if you do it on every card that you open, but who hasn't done it now & then ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5586 on: March 09, 2015, 12:20:37 PM »
IDK if you do it on every card that you open, but who hasn't done it now & then ?

Well it's a matter of closing two cards at once. I have t done it in a while, but with all these A/A going on, it could be risky. Don't want to pay $170 thoigh in annual fees

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5587 on: March 09, 2015, 01:04:17 PM »
My account was shut down, when I called they said its credit related. Now in the wiki it says that in such instances you loss all the points but I see that I still have access to them. Does that mean that I will have until 90 days like what the point abusers get? Or should I redeem now, before its to late?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5588 on: March 09, 2015, 05:36:07 PM »
My account was shut down, when I called they said its credit related. Now in the wiki it says that in such instances you loss all the points but I see that I still have access to them. Does that mean that I will have until 90 days like what the point abusers get? Or should I redeem now, before its too late?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5589 on: March 09, 2015, 05:45:59 PM »
That

If one is under the gun and must redeem. Where should one transfer to for most value?
Hyatt?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5590 on: March 09, 2015, 05:47:24 PM »
United IMHO

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5591 on: March 09, 2015, 06:06:46 PM »
United IMHO

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5592 on: March 09, 2015, 06:11:39 PM »
If one is under the gun and must redeem. Where should one transfer to for most value?
Hyatt?
I'm not sure what you're asking, the value depends on what you're going to use the points for.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5593 on: March 09, 2015, 06:33:58 PM »

People (including myself) just have a stash of points in the account with no use for them at the current time. They are used as needed.

So, in such a situation where someone needed to move out the points (A/A), but dont have a use for them at this moment. Which would ultimately be the best value.

For ex. Don't buy gift cards! Instead transfer to united etc
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5594 on: March 09, 2015, 06:44:54 PM »
People (including myself) just have a stash of points in the account with no use for them at the current time. They are used as needed.

So, in such a situation where someone needed to move out the points (A/A), but dont have a use for them at this moment. Which would ultimately be the best value.

For ex. Don't buy gift cards! Instead transfer to united etc
I went with Hyatt. It will be different for everyone.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5595 on: March 09, 2015, 06:50:43 PM »
It will be different for everyone.
+1 you know better than any of us what your needs are and what you generally use your points for.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5596 on: March 09, 2015, 06:56:19 PM »
+1 you know better than any of us what your needs are and what you generally use your points for.

Yes but which are the most valuable transfer partners from the hotel-airline categories?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5597 on: March 09, 2015, 08:08:28 PM »
Yes but which are the most valuable transfer partners from the hotel-airline categories?
Sounds like united and hyatt seem to be the popular options. But that's just my very HO
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5598 on: March 09, 2015, 08:08:42 PM »
Got the southwest cards, almost at the 60 days to cancel.
Should I risk it? Or leave them open for a year to avoid getting A/A?

Well it's a matter of closing two cards at once. I have t done it in a while, but with all these A/A going on, it could be risky. Don't want to pay $170 thoigh in annual fees

Some people are unbelievable. You want to fleece Southwest for nearly 24 months of free travel and you're worried about cancelling within 60 days over the fact that the annual fee per card is like hundred bucks?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5599 on: March 09, 2015, 09:12:22 PM »
Sounds like united and hyatt seem to be the popular options. But that's just my very HO
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