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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1705582 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5620 on: April 03, 2015, 12:21:05 AM »
His desire to express his opinion.
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And while I'm posting, i happen to agree with it

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5621 on: April 03, 2015, 09:46:45 AM »
+1
And while I'm posting, i happen to agree with it
Seems like you also desire to express your opinion. ;D

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5622 on: April 15, 2015, 03:58:32 PM »
I was a/a by Chase 2 days ago, was able to transfer out points but when called to reconsider the closures was told I had 11 cards open in the past year, plus a big spike i credit usage recently, and all of this is on top of only 4 years credit history. I tried offering to close some cards and paying off the balances immediately on the phone but the rep just kept repeating "I have to agree that the closures are warranted".
What else can try?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5623 on: April 15, 2015, 04:54:23 PM »
Does chase a/a on checkin accounts ever expire? Meaning if they shut my checking Accts can I ever open one again

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5624 on: April 15, 2015, 11:53:18 PM »

I was a/a by Chase 2 days ago, was able to transfer out points but when called to reconsider the closures was told I had 11 cards open in the past year, plus a big spike i credit usage recently, and all of this is on top of only 4 years credit history. I tried offering to close some cards and paying off the balances immediately on the phone but the rep just kept repeating "I have to agree that the closures are warranted".
What else can try?
Put a fork in it, try again in a few months

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5625 on: April 16, 2015, 02:07:46 AM »
Put a fork in it, try again in a few months
Giving up is for wimps!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5626 on: April 16, 2015, 09:20:50 AM »

I was a/a by Chase 2 days ago, was able to transfer out points but when called to reconsider the closures was told I had 11 cards open in the past year, plus a big spike i credit usage recently, and all of this is on top of only 4 years credit history. I tried offering to close some cards and paying off the balances immediately on the phone but the rep just kept repeating "I have to agree that the closures are warranted".
What else can try?
you had eleven cards from chase itself or from multiple banks ? Did you mostly use your cards at target for ms etc. ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5627 on: April 16, 2015, 10:25:11 AM »
Does chase a/a on checkin accounts ever expire? Meaning if they shut my checking Accts can I ever open one again
Yes and the answer to your next question before you ask is YMMV.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5628 on: April 16, 2015, 11:13:34 AM »
i dont know if this is exactly the right thread,
aadvantage account shutdown due to fraud of selling.... anyone with experience how to settle this?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5629 on: April 16, 2015, 11:17:14 AM »
i dont know if this is exactly the right thread,
aadvantage account shutdown due to fraud of selling.... anyone with experience how to settle this?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5630 on: April 16, 2015, 11:50:13 AM »
i dont know if this is exactly the right thread,
aadvantage account shutdown due to fraud of selling.... anyone with experience how to settle this?
Put a fork in it.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5631 on: April 16, 2015, 12:56:08 PM »

i dont know if this is exactly the right thread,
aadvantage account shutdown due to fraud of selling.... anyone with experience how to settle this?
Did you actually sell ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5632 on: April 16, 2015, 02:24:25 PM »
and if so?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5633 on: April 16, 2015, 02:26:27 PM »
and if so?
Then put an even bigger fork in it!

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Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5634 on: April 16, 2015, 03:15:42 PM »
and if so?
AA miles are the hardest ones to get away with selling. Now, if you didn't sell miles then you might have a chance, but if you did sell then I think your out of luck. Hence....
Then put an even bigger fork in it!
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5635 on: April 16, 2015, 04:57:48 PM »
for good?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5636 on: April 18, 2015, 10:11:00 PM »
Does having A Chase checking account with a balance of let's say 2k lower the chance of getting An A/A?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5637 on: April 20, 2015, 03:26:07 PM »
Does having A Chase checking account with a balance of let's say 2k lower the chance of getting An A/A?
Probably, as they see that you have liquid cash to pay your bill with.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5638 on: April 20, 2015, 04:01:42 PM »
Does having A Chase checking account with a balance of let's say 2k lower the chance of getting An A/A?
Probably, as they see that you have liquid cash to pay your bill with.
AFAIK it's not so simple-also 2k isn't very much. I've heard having a bank account with them with money in it lowers the chance but the question is how much do you need in the account and how much it really affects ur A/A chances.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5639 on: April 21, 2015, 01:35:35 AM »
AFAIK it's not so simple-also 2k isn't very much. I've heard having a bank account with them with money in it lowers the chance but the question is how much do you need in the account and how much it really affects ur A/A chances.
Well it kind of depends on what type of risk they see you as; if its a sudden spike in spending but you have that money in your checking to cover then your spending wouldn't be a concern to them, but if it's to many new accounts then it obviously wouldn't help you much.