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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1707365 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5640 on: April 21, 2015, 01:46:01 AM »
AFAIK it's not so simple-also 2k isn't very much. I've heard having a bank account with them with money in it lowers the chance but the question is how much do you need in the account and how much it really affects ur A/A chances.
Well it kind of depends on what type of risk they see you as; if its a sudden spike in spending but you have that money in your checking to cover then your spending wouldn't be a concern to them, but if it's to many new accounts then it obviously wouldn't help you much.
The amount you have in checking/savings will not help you.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5641 on: April 21, 2015, 08:56:07 AM »
The amount you have in checking/savings will not help you.
and why is that?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5642 on: April 21, 2015, 08:57:25 AM »
The amount you have in checking/savings will not help you.
Agreed things aren't so simple.
and why is that?
I think that's just not the way their risk system works.

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Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5643 on: April 21, 2015, 09:16:17 AM »
Agreed things aren't so simple.I think that's just not the way their risk system works.
I've heard having a bank account with them with money in it lowers the chance but the question is how much do you need in the account and how much it really affects ur A/A chances.
where did you hear this from ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5644 on: April 21, 2015, 09:29:31 AM »
and why is that?
I know of accounts with mid 6 figures shut down.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5645 on: April 21, 2015, 10:57:51 AM »
I know of accounts with mid 6 figures shut down.
Makes sense.
where did you hear this from ?
From people who's been through situations like this.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5646 on: April 23, 2015, 11:05:37 AM »
Am I more likely to get A/A'ed if I get a new card, use it until I hit the bonus, and then throw it in my drawer for a while? Got the Hyatt a year ago and have barely used it since I hit the bonus, and just got the BA card and wasn't planning on using it anymore once I hit the bonus...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5647 on: April 23, 2015, 11:24:29 AM »
Am I more likely to get A/A'ed if I get a new card, use it until I hit the bonus, and then throw it in my drawer for a while? Got the Hyatt a year ago and have barely used it since I hit the bonus, and just got the BA card and wasn't planning on using it anymore once I hit the bonus...
You shouldn't get A/A'ed over that. There are some banks that'll close an account after a long time of inactivity. (I don't remember which offhand) But if you're keeping the cards open it's good to swipe a few dollars every couple of months just to show that it's active & you're only using a fraction of the available CL.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5648 on: April 23, 2015, 11:27:14 AM »
You shouldn't get A/A'ed over that. There are some banks that'll close an account after a long time of inactivity. (I don't remember which offhand) But if you're keeping the cards open it's good to swipe a few dollars every couple of months just to show that it's active & you're only using a fraction of the available CL.

Thanks. In terms of raising my credit score, is it beneficial to have activity on as many cards as possible every month (assuming that I'm keeping utilization rate low and paying off in full every month) or does it not make a difference?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5649 on: April 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AM »
Thanks. In terms of raising my credit score, is it beneficial to have activity on as many cards as possible every month (assuming that I'm keeping utilization rate low and paying off in full every month) or does it not make a difference?
It's good to use all & let statement close with a $5 balance on each one.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5650 on: April 23, 2015, 11:43:52 AM »
It's good to use all & let statement close with a $5 balance on each one.

Now I really can't wait for my Coin to arrive because I don't have room in my wallet to carry all my cards  ;D

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5651 on: April 23, 2015, 11:48:38 AM »
Now I really can't wait for my Coin to arrive because I don't have room in my wallet to carry all my cards  ;D
You don't have to carry them all with you & you don't have to use them ALL every month. :)
I'll usually do the small charges online to pay a bill.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5652 on: April 23, 2015, 11:50:50 AM »
It's good to use all & let statement close with a $5 balance on each one.
Only have $5 balance on one card for the best effect.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5653 on: April 23, 2015, 11:52:18 AM »
Only have $5 balance on one card for the best effect.
Up from $2 ? ;)
Whatever became of that ? I've been waiting for an update.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5654 on: April 23, 2015, 12:57:28 PM »
You shouldn't get A/A'ed over that. There are some banks that'll close an account after a long time of inactivity. (I don't remember which offhand) But if you're keeping the cards open it's good to swipe a few dollars every couple of months just to show that it's active & you're only using a fraction of the available CL.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5655 on: April 23, 2015, 01:25:17 PM »
Up from $2 ? ;)
Whatever became of that ? I've been waiting for an update.
Let one card report with anywhere between $2 and 1% works best IME.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5656 on: April 23, 2015, 01:39:57 PM »
Let one card report with anywhere between $2 and 1% works best IME.
I think this whole "1 card 2$" thing is a bit excessive. Just leave small balance(s) on some cards. The extra point or 2 ain't going to make the difference.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5657 on: April 23, 2015, 01:50:04 PM »
I think this whole "1 card 2$" thing is a bit excessive. Just leave small balance(s) on some cards. The extra point or 2 ain't going to make the difference.
Agreed. I usually let a small balance report on 2 or 3 cards. It doesn't make much difference.

In the past, I have experimented with letting 1 card report with a balance from $2 up to 8.5% and have seen precious little, if any, difference.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5658 on: April 23, 2015, 02:16:24 PM »
Whatever became of that ? I've been waiting for an update.

Talking about Coin? I got an update that they started shipping the regular orders but that they're rolling them out slowly. My expected delivery date is September.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5659 on: April 23, 2015, 02:22:36 PM »
Talking about Coin? I got an update that they started shipping the regular orders but that they're rolling them out slowly. My expected delivery date is September.
I meant this.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=49416.0
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