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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700186 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5820 on: December 19, 2015, 01:23:45 PM »
Spent about $1,500 on the first day of receiving my UAE Chase card and it got locked for fraud alert. Chase called and asked me some questions to identify me (i.e. Which address have you lived at, etc.). After that, they confirmed all the charges with me and said that the card is unlocked. Is this a mini A/A or just standard fraud prevention procedure?

Norma fraud alert.

What's "UAE" card?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5821 on: December 19, 2015, 06:04:43 PM »
Norma fraud alert.

What's "UAE" card?
probably meant UMPE card

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5822 on: December 19, 2015, 06:06:30 PM »
probably meant UMPE card
Thanks all. Ya, meant UMPE. Not sure why I called it UAE :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5823 on: December 21, 2015, 10:19:26 PM »
I have 2 cards with the AFs due and wanna transfer the CL and close it.

Is there any specific CL I shouldn't exceed on one card? ie, would a 20k CL put me on the radar?
My highest CL with Chase is currently 13k.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5824 on: December 28, 2015, 08:26:06 PM »
Just had the weirdest story: background I have been a very strong client with chase with multiple cc with large legit spending/credit lines. Last year I closed my account that I had with them for years. Recently I decided to switch back to take advantage of a promotion for 500$ for checking/savings account which I bought off someone on eBay (i did it last year for my wife hence we have seperate accounts for now) I opened the account in my name only a week ago & now I recieved a letter that they are terminating the relationship- only mentioning the bank accounts not the ccs. I called my banker at local branch this morning that said he would look into it but I tried multiple times calling him & the branch amd I couldn't get thru (do they block your phone number?!?) called chase banking and they said they terminated relationship no explanation given, didn't want to press to much about cc but seems they are not being closed..

Has anyone had a similar story? Could the promotion have something to do with the closure? Should I be worried about my ccs since it seems strange to me they will terminate only half a relationship.. Should I attempt to add myself to my wife's account or will that just get her account closed as well?...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5825 on: December 29, 2015, 12:00:39 AM »
Just had the weirdest story: background I have been a very strong client with chase with multiple cc with large legit spending/credit lines. Last year I closed my account that I had with them for years. Recently I decided to switch back to take advantage of a promotion for 500$ for checking/savings account which I bought off someone on eBay (i did it last year for my wife hence we have seperate accounts for now) I opened the account in my name only a week ago & now I recieved a letter that they are terminating the relationship- only mentioning the bank accounts not the ccs. I called my banker at local branch this morning that said he would look into it but I tried multiple times calling him & the branch amd I couldn't get thru (do they block your phone number?!?) called chase banking and they said they terminated relationship no explanation given, didn't want to press to much about cc but seems they are not being closed..

Has anyone had a similar story? Could the promotion have something to do with the closure? Should I be worried about my ccs since it seems strange to me they will terminate only half a relationship.. Should I attempt to add myself to my wife's account or will that just get her account closed as well?...

Do NOT add yourself to any of your wife's accounts.  Chase has been know to close spouses accounts as well.  Also, once Chase closes you down, it is well known that they won't give you an explanation and you will not have anyone to speak to.  Once they close you down, they do not care about you.  Let's hope they do not close your CC accounts as well.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5826 on: December 29, 2015, 12:29:31 AM »
Do NOT add yourself to any of your wife's accounts.  Chase has been know to close spouses accounts as well.  Also, once Chase closes you down, it is well known that they won't give you an explanation and you will not have anyone to speak to.  Once they close you down, they do not care about you.  Let's hope they do not close your CC accounts as well.
Has it been known to happen that they would close you for taking advantage of offer that wasn't targeted to you? Has it happened that they only closed banking and not the credit cards?
Should I ask about the credit cards? On the one hand don't want to give them any ideas but I'm sure they didn't overlook that I have credit cards by them..

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5827 on: December 29, 2015, 01:09:56 AM »
Should I ask about the credit cards? On the one hand don't want to give them any ideas but I'm sure they didn't overlook that I have credit cards by them..
It has happened like that, and the person wasn't able to open new cards, just kept the existing ones.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5828 on: December 29, 2015, 01:53:36 AM »
It has happened like that, and the person wasn't able to open new cards, just kept the existing ones.
Wow- weird.. So
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5829 on: December 29, 2015, 01:55:42 AM »
Wow- weird.. So
I'm half cast off from them half not?
That's what happened to this person, iirc. He said the trigger sad depositing MO's. He was able to keep current cards, but was rejected for new ones due to previous  unsatisfactory relationship.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5830 on: December 29, 2015, 02:54:48 AM »
That's what happened to this person, iirc. He said the trigger sad depositing MO's. He was able to keep current cards, but was rejected for new ones due to previous  unsatisfactory relationship.
What are MO's?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5833 on: December 29, 2015, 02:47:48 PM »
Banker told me he has begged them for info but they refuse- said its only banking and cc are fine. Ironically just got an email from chase about car loans lol

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5834 on: December 29, 2015, 02:48:44 PM »
Banker told me he has begged them for info but they refuse- said its only banking and cc are fine. Ironically just got an email from chase about car loans lol

That is typical that they won't tell you anything.  Just be happy your CC accounts are still good. 
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5835 on: January 11, 2016, 11:07:36 AM »
A friend of mine got shutdown for literally no reason. He had one cc, no crazy limits, no crazy spend and no household members that got A/Ad.   


They took a few hundred thousand points.


Any recourse?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5836 on: January 11, 2016, 04:37:43 PM »
A friend of mine got shutdown for literally no reason. He had one cc, no crazy limits, no crazy spend and no household members that got A/Ad.   


They took a few hundred thousand points.


Any recourse?
when i was a/a'd my points were available for 90 days afterwards

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5837 on: January 14, 2016, 06:33:03 PM »
Shut down a year ago for getting a few cards and spending quickly with new credit. Applied today for sw, and it's pending. Putpac or wait?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5838 on: January 14, 2016, 07:03:42 PM »
A friend of mine got shutdown for literally no reason. He had one cc, no crazy limits, no crazy spend and no household members that got A/Ad.   


They took a few hundred thousand points.


Any recourse?
Small claims court

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5839 on: January 14, 2016, 09:31:02 PM »
Small claims court
any success stories out of there?
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