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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6320 on: June 07, 2017, 07:28:04 AM »
How long do I have to wait until I can reopen my checking and savings account? Or is it permanently closed ?
No set amount of time. Give it 6 months and try again.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6321 on: June 08, 2017, 03:38:08 AM »
No set amount of time. Give it 6 months and try again.

Thanks
Someone told me that chase is permenantly closing accounts now
Is that true ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6322 on: June 08, 2017, 01:48:11 PM »
Someone told me that chase is permenantly closing accounts now
Is that true ?
How could they possibly know?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6323 on: June 08, 2017, 01:54:24 PM »
How could they possibly know?

has this happened over 2 years ago? then it can be proven?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6324 on: June 08, 2017, 01:54:52 PM »
No set amount of time. Give it 6 months and try again.

why would you say 6 months?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6325 on: June 09, 2017, 03:04:15 AM »
why would you say 6 months?
Wait 5 or 7 months then. Is that better?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6326 on: June 09, 2017, 03:51:35 AM »
Wait 5 or 7 months then. Is that better?

Why would u even think that short amount of time ?
Do u know people who had success with this ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6327 on: June 09, 2017, 03:57:11 AM »
Do u know people who had success with this ?
Yes.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6328 on: June 12, 2017, 06:48:00 PM »
Yes.

Just got off the phone with chase
They told me that later on that I could open up cc but not checking and savings account ever
CM, you know people who opened up checking and savings or just cc ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6329 on: June 12, 2017, 06:55:40 PM »
There have been some who have been reopened in ~6 months, but that's exceedingly rare. The vast majority of folks are shut down for years, and years. Don't get your hopes up.

And I imagine that last biz card will be shut as well.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6330 on: June 12, 2017, 06:59:57 PM »
Just got off the phone with chase
They told me that later on that I could open up cc but not checking and savings account ever
Who did you talk to?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6331 on: June 12, 2017, 07:12:06 PM »
chase
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6332 on: June 12, 2017, 07:16:03 PM »
That's pretty good you got through to LP. My only suggestion is give it a try after sometime. You have nothing to lose.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6333 on: June 12, 2017, 07:18:14 PM »
thanks.
the people you know, reopened checkings and savings? or only credit cards?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6334 on: June 12, 2017, 07:20:20 PM »
thanks.
the people you know, reopened checkings and savings? or only credit cards?
CC's as their checking/savings is worthless.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6335 on: June 12, 2017, 07:25:18 PM »
CC's as their checking/savings is worthless.

Why is checking and savings worthless ?
Chase quickpay
Plus they have the most ATM
And work great for international
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6336 on: June 12, 2017, 07:51:39 PM »
thanks.
the people you know, reopened checkings and savings? or only credit cards?
did you get compensation from chase?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6337 on: June 12, 2017, 07:54:44 PM »
did you get compensation from chase?

Chase is not giving me any reason as to why they shut me down
I give you a bracha that this should happen to you
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6338 on: June 12, 2017, 08:01:30 PM »
Why is checking and savings worthless ?
Chase quickpay
Plus they have the most ATM
And work great for international
Schwab for ATM International. QP low limits make it worthless.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6339 on: June 12, 2017, 08:07:13 PM »
Schwab for ATM International. QP low limits make it worthless.

Is there anything that is similar to QP?

Which bank also has the best checkings/savings for domestic
BOA/TD/Santander/WellsFargo?
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