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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1706548 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6360 on: July 12, 2017, 04:39:07 PM »
Chase just closed 4 of my personal cards & business card (totaling 74k). The reasons they closed it is because:
A) rapid increase in revolving balances
B) not enough credit info on file (whatever that means)
C) the accounts on your credit report have not been open long enough

My question is 1) why did they trust me by approving me for these cc's if they don't have enough info on file 2) should I try to HUCA or is it a waste of time & 3) what happeneds with my credit report? Do they report it as my account were revoked? Won't that kill my credit?
I have 1 SPG card that I can still use to build myself up how long of a process will that be?
1. Who cares.
2. Call the number on the top of the letter and ask them to recon, if they say no then call EO.
3. No, if you have an underwriter look at your credit in the future they may ask what that was about but aside from that "Closed by creditor" won't make much of a difference.

I don't understand your last question.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6361 on: July 12, 2017, 07:05:34 PM »
That's if it does ruin my credit because of them closing me but you said that it won't do I guess that's irrelevant

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6362 on: July 12, 2017, 07:09:47 PM »
That's if it does ruin my credit because of them closing me but you said that it won't do I guess that's irrelevant
You're score may take a hit if you're average age of credit goes down. How old is that SPG card?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6363 on: July 12, 2017, 11:44:21 PM »
About 2-3 years

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6364 on: July 16, 2017, 10:01:50 AM »
You're score may take a hit if you're average age of credit goes down. How old is that SPG card?
Closed cards stay on your report for 10 years.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6365 on: July 16, 2017, 10:21:47 AM »
Closed cards stay on your report for 10 years at least 7 years.
FTFY
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6366 on: July 21, 2017, 09:19:41 PM »
I had my family's and my Chase accounts and credit cards shut down slightly over 3 years ago. They closed all our bank accounts + credit cards and never told us why. They did let us use/transfer our UR points.

Should I bother opening a Checking account or a credit card online now? or should I call first? If so, which department?

Are there any cases of people getting back into Chase, a few years after being shut down?

I read thru last 5-7 pages and could find no real answer, so would appreciate any help, thanks!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6367 on: July 21, 2017, 09:25:51 PM »
Apply and see what happens. Chase does not hold a grudge forever.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6368 on: July 22, 2017, 06:29:51 PM »
Apply and see what happens. Chase does not hold a grudge forever.  :)

Thanks. Should start with bank account first right? Don't want to hit my credit report with a hard inquiry in case they're going to deny me a credit card...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6369 on: July 22, 2017, 08:11:42 PM »
Thanks. Should start with bank account first right? Don't want to hit my credit report with a hard inquiry in case they're going to deny me a credit card...
Hard inquires are overrated. Bank account is fine.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6370 on: August 01, 2017, 03:38:42 PM »
My Accounts were shut down because "our affiliate is ending its banking relationship with you". I tried transferring points out to my FF account but they are saying I can only redeem the points as cashback and not any transfers because my account is closed. Is this correct? Its the first time I am hearing anything like this.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6371 on: August 01, 2017, 07:50:38 PM »
My Accounts were shut down because "our affiliate is ending its banking relationship with you". I tried transferring points out to my FF account but they are saying I can only redeem the points as cashback and not any transfers because my account is closed. Is this correct? Its the first time I am hearing anything like this.
Isn't that what's part of the poll in the wiki?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6372 on: August 01, 2017, 08:11:41 PM »
My experience has been that for a credit related risk closure they let you transfer points out within 30 days.  For points related closure I think they don't let but am not sure.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6373 on: August 01, 2017, 08:12:42 PM »
My experience has been that for a credit related risk closure they let you transfer points out within 30 days.  For points related closure I think they don't let but am not sure.
how do I know what type of closure it is when all they say is the "affiliate......."

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6374 on: August 01, 2017, 08:17:06 PM »
how do I know what type of closure it is when all they say is the "affiliate......."
Did you abuse the perks or points ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6375 on: August 01, 2017, 08:29:12 PM »
how do I know what type of closure it is when all they say is the "affiliate......."

I can't imagine that you don't know why your accounts were closed.  You must have some ideas.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6376 on: August 01, 2017, 09:55:28 PM »
I actually think it doesn't make sense even according to Chase's standards.
I have a personal and 2 biz cards for many years. Regular spending and always paying in full with a mix of bonus category (staples) mixed in, but all legitimate.
Over the years I have carried large balances without any issues.
Last week there was a sale at staples that I was legitimately taking advantage of and stocked up, they shut me down the next day. I have to assume it's the staples charges that triggered it, but it doesn't make sense.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6377 on: August 07, 2017, 02:55:38 PM »
I had my family's and my Chase accounts and credit cards shut down slightly over 3 years ago. They closed all our bank accounts + credit cards and never told us why. They did let us use/transfer our UR points.

Should I bother opening a Checking account or a credit card online now? or should I call first? If so, which department?

Are there any cases of people getting back into Chase, a few years after being shut down?

I read thru last 5-7 pages and could find no real answer, so would appreciate any help, thanks!

Hard inquires are overrated. Bank account is fine.

Following up on my previous post here.

Tried to open a Chase Savings account online today. Application went until the page where it asks me to enter my "funding source." I entered my external bank account details, then the application kicked me out and took me to the chase login page.

I tried to login with the username/password that I created during application and it didn't recognize that.

Then I pressed back button and went to the "funding source" page again and this time, saved my application.  Then I got this email: https://i.imgur.com/RQMTx2y.png

But it doesn't mention my application number. And the online username/password I created don't work.

So is this related to my previous AA history with chase, or just a technical glitch?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6378 on: September 26, 2017, 11:00:01 AM »
Have a family member who was shut down from Chase. Not sure if it was credit risk or perks abuse. Couple months ago they got approved for a csp but the account was closed within a few days.

Are they able to open a bank account with Chase or is that also likely to get closed?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6379 on: October 19, 2017, 10:33:13 AM »
Any update on the settlement RE: www.chaserewardsprogramsettlement.com