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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6460 on: January 23, 2018, 01:56:00 PM »
One thing everyone should learn from this thread. When someone says they don't know why they were shutdown 99/100 there is more to the story.  :)
Many people probably wonder why they aren't shut down, until they are and then they wonder why they were
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6461 on: January 23, 2018, 02:01:21 PM »
Why dont you understand? some guy that sells on Amazon uses her cards and some other peoples cards and pays off all the cards from his account.
So high spending, and third party bank account.
Yet still you say.
only thing "possible" that payment was made from bank acct that pays a few different credit cards
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6462 on: January 23, 2018, 02:01:22 PM »
No. A guy that sells on Amazon uses her card and other peoples as well.
personal or biz cards? Did his Amazon Guy have a chase account that was being used to pay? Or another bank?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6463 on: January 23, 2018, 02:06:23 PM »
personal or biz cards? Did his Amazon Guy have a chase account that was being used to pay? Or another bank?
If it was another bank Chase would not have been able to see if it was paying other cards besides if other chase cards were also getting paid.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6464 on: January 23, 2018, 02:08:58 PM »
Why dont you understand? some guy that sells on Amazon uses her cards and some other peoples cards and pays off all the cards from his account.
Thats not what OP said

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6465 on: January 23, 2018, 02:29:29 PM »
So excessive spending was the killer?
Not sure it is excessive. Same amount for past 12 months.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6466 on: January 23, 2018, 02:30:08 PM »
The guy uses her cards which she then pays ? Was it a chase card ?
He uses cards and pays directly.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6467 on: January 23, 2018, 02:32:38 PM »
personal or biz cards? Did his Amazon Guy have a chase account that was being used to pay? Or another bank?
This makes sense. I think he just switched to Chase. So Just started paying the cards from a chase acct. definitely a business acct.
personal cards.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6468 on: January 23, 2018, 02:49:38 PM »
Thats not what OP said
What do you think he said?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6469 on: January 23, 2018, 03:00:44 PM »
This makes sense. I think he just switched to Chase. So Just started paying the cards from a chase acct. definitely a business acct.
personal cards.
got it. Just curious, did this guy have his chase biz account shut?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6470 on: January 23, 2018, 04:21:11 PM »
This makes sense. I think he just switched to Chase. So Just started paying the cards from a chase acct. definitely a business acct.
personal cards.
I would say that would have done it but I could be wrong.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6471 on: January 23, 2018, 07:58:12 PM »
I would say that would have done it but I could be wrong.
seems to be the common denominator here, so odd because the account holders here have done nothing wrong - I wonder if chase will reopen these accounts.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6472 on: January 23, 2018, 08:00:22 PM »
seems to be the common denominator here, so odd because the account holders here have done nothing wrong - I wonder if chase will reopen these accounts.
Because someone else is initiating the payment doesn't mean the account holder did nothing.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6473 on: January 23, 2018, 08:27:43 PM »
Because someone else is initiating the payment doesn't mean the account holder did nothing.
Is it against T&C to let someone use your CC?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6474 on: January 23, 2018, 08:31:21 PM »
Is it against T&C to let someone use your CC?
Is it against the T & C to spend to much? Shut down don't have to be caused by breaking the T&C
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6475 on: January 23, 2018, 08:41:12 PM »
Is it against T&C to let someone use your CC?
Somewhere in the t&c’s they give themselves the right to close you down at their choosing.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6476 on: January 23, 2018, 08:55:17 PM »
Somewhere in the t&c’s they give themselves the right to close you down at their choosing.
correct, but seeing as they do occasionally reopen, seems to be they will fix if no crime committed etc...
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6477 on: January 23, 2018, 08:57:57 PM »
correct, but seeing as they do occasionally reopen, seems to be they will fix if no crime committed etc...
Their definition of "crime" doesn't have to match yours, or even their T&C
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6478 on: January 23, 2018, 09:05:23 PM »
Their definition of "crime" doesn't have to match yours, or even their T&C
I never said otherwise.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6479 on: January 24, 2018, 12:55:14 PM »
Got shut down abt 2 years ago. excessive spending and 3rd party payments. Recently applied for the freedom and got approved, any dp's if I'm automatically going to get shut down again? am I good to go?