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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700234 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6840 on: May 01, 2018, 03:23:54 PM »
You need to look at the FCRA to see what it says. If you take them to arbitration it will be for violating what it says in FRCA.
I can't find it mentioned in the FCRA, do you know where it's mentioned?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6841 on: May 01, 2018, 03:26:23 PM »
I can't find it mentioned in the FCRA, do you know where it's mentioned?
Will have to look when I get a chance.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6843 on: May 02, 2018, 09:09:38 PM »


Yikes! https://www.doctorofcredit.com/chase-marriott-premier-plus-now-live-100000-point-bonus/#comment-589510

See reddit for more reliable whacked stories.
Look at the responses, and I think it's true, Chase generally takes 24hrs+ plus from app to trigger the review.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6844 on: May 04, 2018, 11:34:50 AM »
Hyatt done and SUB posted.
Card 2 and card 3 will be Ink Business.
What is the spend for Marriott business, 3k?
Marriott Business spend done and account closed.  >:(
Any chance I still get the SUB?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6845 on: May 04, 2018, 11:52:27 AM »
Marriott Business spend done and account closed.  >:(
Any chance I still get the SUB?
would they not be legally required to give it to you?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6846 on: May 04, 2018, 11:53:22 AM »
would they not be legally required to give it to you?
Good question. Going to have to read the welcome package.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6847 on: May 04, 2018, 12:23:29 PM »
Good question. Going to have to read the welcome package.
Read just the application T&C
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6848 on: May 04, 2018, 01:31:45 PM »
Marriott Business spend done and account closed.  >:(
Any chance I still get the SUB?
How are the other cards holding up?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6849 on: May 04, 2018, 01:32:31 PM »
Will have to look when I get a chance.
Still too busy?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6850 on: May 04, 2018, 01:46:24 PM »
How are the other cards holding up?
Only other is Hyatt and still open so far. Made different logins if that matters.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6851 on: May 04, 2018, 01:47:04 PM »
Still too busy?
Not bust at all. Just didn't have a chance yet.  :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6852 on: May 06, 2018, 05:30:32 PM »

Does ink have high a/a risk for maxing cl but paying down right away? (Never had a reason to do that till now with vgc)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6853 on: May 07, 2018, 05:40:10 PM »
Does ink have high a/a risk for maxing cl but paying down right away? (Never had a reason to do that till now with vgc)
Yes

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6854 on: May 07, 2018, 06:52:31 PM »
Yes
Is it cool to pay down a balance right away, but not reuse CL?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6855 on: May 07, 2018, 06:58:04 PM »
Is it cool to pay down a balance right away, but not reuse CL?
Never had an issue.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6856 on: May 07, 2018, 07:01:32 PM »
Chase's logic after a complaint to the CFPB gemara kup:
Since we have right to close your checking account at any time for no reason as stated in your agreement on page 13 etc.... ( I may still fight it since I never opened up the account with Chase they swallowed up a different bank where I had my original accounts.)
Your credit cards were also closed because an affiliate  ended its banking relationship with you, that's how they got out of giving a real reason!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6857 on: May 07, 2018, 08:43:17 PM »
By me myank accounts were shut a year ago.....got approved a month ago for cc and today got the letter about affiliate....Anything to do if hadnt had banking for a year?

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Help!! Chase closed my CC accounts without warning
« Reply #6858 on: May 08, 2018, 09:10:18 AM »
Can someone advise on this please?

I applied for a Chase Freedom Unlimited card, they pulled my credit and decided that balances on my account are too high so they closed all my other existing Chase CC accounts.

I have never in my life made a late payment.
I pay my credit card in full every month.
My credit line was $55,000 and yes I did go over that many times, but I always paid in full at the end of the month.
My credit score is in the 790 range.

At the time when they closed my account they had just raised my limit to $70,000, I owed them $90,000 on May 1st, and I paid $45,000 - my statement balance - on May 3rd. I'm not late on any payment and my business relies on this card. I now owe them $45,000 which is only due on June 3rd.

I called Chase and they are saying that they will reconsider, it will take 10 days, etc....

Also, I can switch to Amex. I have plenty of credit there, but will closing these accounts affect my credit negatively?

Is there anything I can do? Anyone I can talk to about this?

If anyone can please suggest what to do.

Thank you,

Alex/Heshy

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