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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1698106 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7220 on: January 06, 2021, 05:22:18 PM »
What method do you use and for what products?
I really wonder if theres any way around like there was with BRM for Inks to get around 5/24..

there is no way u can get around every time i tried a defriend card and nothing i spoke to big guys in chase and they reach out to the top and nothing help . i think its just luck

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7221 on: March 23, 2021, 10:13:26 AM »
I signed up for a Ink card and for whatever reason for I didn’t start using it right away and now I only have two bill cycles to spend $7,500, my credit line is only $3,000. What’s the best way to pay down your balance mid cycle without triggering any adverse action. I apologize in advance I didn’t read thru the whole tread, but remember reading way back when that paying early before the statement closed is a trigger.

I’ve done this a few times without issues. Would think it would cause problems for those that do repeatedly not once in a while, but I will let more experienced users chime in.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7222 on: March 31, 2021, 10:48:26 AM »
i have a chase business ink cash (which was just downgraded from a chase business ink preferred about a week ago after having the chase business preferred for like 3 years) and would like to transfer my points to my son who has a chase sapphire reserve so i can then use pyb for 1.5 pp. we both have the same home address. however my chase business card is registered to my business address, which is a diff address. is it a issue to transfer the points to him? our license both say the same address its just the business is a diff address....

thanks in advance  :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7223 on: June 14, 2021, 04:04:57 AM »
Hi. I'm not sure if I'm in the right thread (maybe a new post should be made for this).
Dan keeps on saying that chase only pulls one inquiry from your credit report when applying for 2 chase cards at the same time, though so far I've only heard people experiencing the opposite.

I would like to hear if and how many people got the combined inquiry, or any other data points..


Tyvm!!!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7224 on: June 14, 2021, 07:57:17 AM »
Hi. I'm not sure if I'm in the right thread (maybe a new post should be made for this).
Dan keeps on saying that chase only pulls one inquiry from your credit report when applying for 2 chase cards at the same time, though so far I've only heard people experiencing the opposite.

I would like to hear if and how many people got the combined inquiry, or any other data points..


Tyvm!!!
wrong thread.
 it used to be. 2 personal, same day 1 pull. business personal 2 pulls.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7225 on: June 23, 2021, 03:01:17 PM »
In the wiki the # to contact executive team to get back in is 1888-622-7547  I was notified that than # doesn't work anymore and the new # is
8002427399

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7226 on: July 02, 2021, 04:06:33 PM »
Welcome back Chase!

After 8 years being shut down, and multiple attempts to be let back in over the years (constant denials for "previous unsatisfactory relationship"), I just got approved for the sapphire preferred!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7227 on: July 10, 2021, 09:35:58 PM »
Any problem re A/A or SUB, with buying many VGCs?
Thanks. 

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7228 on: July 14, 2021, 08:40:24 AM »
Welcome back Chase!

After 8 years being shut down, and multiple attempts to be let back in over the years (constant denials for "previous unsatisfactory relationship"), I just got approved for the sapphire preferred!

Congrats! Did they pull your credit every time you applied and got denied over the years? Wife got shut down 4 years ago and wondering if I should try to reapply now

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7229 on: July 22, 2021, 11:49:28 AM »
Just give it a try. Some get let back in and some don't.
Welcome back Chase!

After 8 years being shut down, and multiple attempts to be let back in over the years (constant denials for "previous unsatisfactory relationship"), I just got approved for the sapphire preferred!

Is Chase getting soft? Three family members shut down a little over a year ago for reward abuse. All three approved for CSP.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7230 on: July 22, 2021, 12:10:45 PM »
Three family members shut down a little over a year ago for reward abuse. All three approved for CSP.
The virus has definitely softened some people. Keep us posted how long it lasts & the level abuse going into it.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7231 on: July 22, 2021, 12:13:48 PM »
The virus has definitely softened some people. Keep us posted how long it lasts & the level abuse going into it.
All three spend is done. Temp showing 100k. Even if shutdown now the points will still post on statement close. No other abuse for these cards.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7232 on: July 22, 2021, 12:15:00 PM »
All three spend is done. Temp showing 100k. Even if shutdown now the points will still post on statement close. No other abuse for these cards.
Any other apps on the menu ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7233 on: July 22, 2021, 12:15:52 PM »
Any other apps on the menu ?
Will wait a month then hit up the business cards.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7234 on: July 22, 2021, 12:18:24 PM »
Will wait a month then hit up the business cards.
Playing it safe
The virus has definitely softened some people.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7235 on: July 22, 2021, 12:21:50 PM »
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7236 on: August 20, 2021, 03:40:01 PM »
Any help out there.  i got approved 6 month a go for a chase united after getting closed down almost 8 years ago last month i got approved for the shappire did only normal spending . today i got a latter from chase that they will be closing all of my chase account on Sep 11 since they see that a previous cards with them was closed . i did not do anything wrong what can i do its crazy with them i was so excited to be back with them and now this ?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7237 on: August 30, 2021, 12:29:57 PM »
In the wiki the # to contact executive team to get back in is 1888-622-7547  I was notified that than # doesn't work anymore and the new # is
18002427399
Sounds like it's to regular the customer service from the way the automatic system answers it.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7238 on: September 12, 2021, 07:40:10 PM »
Is there a article that Dan or someone else has written up about what activity to avoid in order to not get a chase shutdown? Thanks

Also another q, if I pay my chase personal sapphire prefferd bill from a citi bank personal checking account, is that reason to be worried? I have a chase business account but not a chase personal.

Thanks

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #7239 on: September 12, 2021, 09:07:43 PM »
Is there a article that Dan or someone else has written up about what activity to avoid in order to not get a chase shutdown? Thanks
https://www.dansdeals.com/credit-cards/avoid-credit-cards-closed-red-flags-trigger-financial-reviews-adverse-action-shutdowns/
If it benefits even just one fellow DDFer, its worth posting it.